Re: Forking and building a new version of dia



Hi


I have been watching these emails with some interest because there are a few things that I think would make the client version of dia a little better:


  • Better mac support

    I use dia to teach Entity Relationship modeling to my business intelligence and analytics students and unfortunately it is a pain in the butt for them to get it working consistently on macs.

  • It might be helpful to allow users to control the size of objects in drawings

    I find it hard to control the size of objects, which can be very important when making a nice drawing.

  • I would like there to be a simple way to add connection points to objects

  • I would like to be able to create multi-page forms like you can find in the url tablet without custom programming them (which I believe to be hard coded)


I like the idea of client server but I would also like to see some of the above implemented, and would try to find time to help spec these ideas out, test them, and document them.  


All the best . . .


Phil


Philip M. Troy, Ph.D.
    
Conseiller principal, analytique
CIUSSS  du Centre-Ouest-de-l’Île-de-Montréal Université McGill
Phil Troy CCOMTL ssss gouv qc ca




From: dia-list <dia-list-bounces gnome org> on behalf of Steve Litt <slitt troubleshooters com>
Sent: July 16, 2018 3:04 AM
To: dia-list gnome org
Subject: Re: Forking and building a new version of dia
 
I was going thru my email a little too fast and thought I was on the
Inkscape list and responded thusly. Yeah, I've always thought Dia has
some problems, but still maintain the way to approach this client
server Dia would be a separate part, not a fork of the project. And the
way to make Dia better is to pitch in, not to fork it, unless you have
access to ten or so gung-ho developers ready to do the job.

SteveT


On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:52:02 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt troubleshooters com> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:15:29 +0100
> Marco van Beek <marco 84andahalf com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a regular user of dia, and am saddened that it is slowly
> > decaying as a project. 
>
> The opinion of a man whose first post to this list in at least 5 years
> asks for others to desert Inkscape and join him in a fork. Not say
> "how can I help?", but ask others to desert. And just for the record,
> I've never thought of Inkscape as "decaying": It works great for me.
>
> >
> > I have an idea that might help create a new version with
> > functionality not found in any other system.
> >
> > I have been documenting a fairly large system and realised how
> > quickly the diagrams will go out of date, just because cables get
> > moved, and so on.
> >
> > So it occurred to me that given the xml data format, it should be
> > reasonably easy to come up with a client-server version, using an
> > API on a standard LAMP/WAMP server. 
>
> Now you see, what you could have done was offered to add your lampwamp
> to the existing Inkscape so it becomes a nice, modular tool. I think
> that would have created more interest.
>
> >
> > With that in mind, I am happy to put some time into the server side,
> > using apache to do the authentication,  
>
> Put some time in? You'd better get ready to treat it as almost a
> fulltime job: Forks are brutal. I know you wouldn't expect your
> co-forkers to carry the load while you just "put some time into".
> Would you?
>
> > So what do people think? I think we would have to fork the project,
> > but if it is dying anyway that is often the easiest way to take
> > control. 
>
> I'm not sure how valuable a multiuser Inkscape would be, and of course
> if it's stored uncompressed another possibility would be for
> everyone to use git on the drawing. But the real problem here is that,
> the way you've approached this list on your very first contact, I
> doubt you'd be a credible project leader.
>
> SteveT

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