Re: thanks for nothing

[Thomas HARDING <tom thomas-harding name>]

On 31/01/2014 09:41, somebody who carez wrote:
> Dia is a very useful tool. Thanks for everything!
The listed contributors do the real job.I have nothing to do with that: 
I just sent a patch years ago.

Free Software don't needs for complains or thanks: it needs for patches, 
traces, and reporting. Slavko has done a good reporting below. And I 
said changes are simple to author.

It's simple to take care :)

Regards,
TSFH
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Thomas HARDING 
> <tom thomas-harding name <mailto:tom thomas-harding name>> wrote:
>
>     On 30/01/2014 20:39, Slavko wrote:
>
>
>         My description was verbose with the demonstration at once. It
>         was very
>         simple, e.g.:
>
>         + take look into shape lists and select appropriate one
>         + click on shape and click to workplace to add it
>         + select proper line type
>         + find the connection point (by change the shape color)
>         + select text tool
>         + add descriptive name
>         + here you can enable snap to grid
>         + snapping is as this
>         + etc
>
>
>         My students are lazy to read anything (except the facebook ;-)
>         ), they
>         have a problem to understand the written description at all.
>         Not, they
>         have not a mental problems (i am not sure with this English term),
>         but they are modern young people (cca 17-18 years old)...
>
>     [I should improve my English too]
>     <g>
>     Maybe you could upload that description with (localized) captures
>     on Facebook, or, incredibly more fun, by authoring a video (with
>     beer and pizza) you'll upload tu Youtube -- screen recording
>     sucks, but if you has an old 14" cathodic monitor and, more, you
>     film yourself handi webcam /with bearb/, that could rocks ;)
>     </g>
>
>         I am not sure now, is somewhere the tutorial in "Get started"
>         style?
>
>     No, at least in furbished manuals not in the training course step
>     by step way.
>
>     Actually there is the Dia manual, Chapter 2, entitled "Quickstart"
>     (Dia manual is on "help button"), where Chapter 5 would be more
>     relevant to actually quickstart the sketch itself.
>
>     Unfortunately Chapter 2 is mostly a text synopsis (1 capture
>     only?), notably linked back once to another section. Also the
>     Manual  nodes are sliced to subsections level and that breaks too
>     much the reading flow on most section: sometimes nodes are shorter
>     than that paragraph -- while some nodes would be /really/ too
>     verbose once section level sliced.
>
>     That is easily tunable on xsl transformation (from Dia sources) as
>     it is Docbook (I don't remain if done a switch in the Makefile,
>     but I remain Docbook version is 4/xml, so the light combination
>     "xmllint/xsltproc" programs will do the drill -- V5 has only xsl
>     shema and xsltproc would fail to valid).
>
>     Even not fluent in English, don't use the Dia manual/Polish
>     version at all as it is really outdated. Even English version has
>     been last revised 2011.
>
>     BTW it is really simple to technically author/compile that bloody
>     doc for years. It just need authors :p
>
>     Best Regards,
>     Thomas HARDING
>
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