Re: DIa Port to Java

On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 14:33 +0000, Aaron Trevena wrote:
On 16/02/2008, Lars Clausen <lars raeder dk> wrote:

On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 08:30 -0600, Mark and Lisa Collins wrote:
I am trying to find a developer, for hire, that would be interesting
in building Dia in Java with some modifications.  Can you point me to
someone who might eb interested?

I have been thinking that that would be the way to go; IDEs for Java are
a lot better than for C.  I just so happen to have a company that does
programming contracting, so please let me know what you're thinking of,
and I'll see what we can figure out.

No - that isn't the way to go.

Java doesn't work with any of the native *nix toolkits or desktops,

Wrong: There is java-gnome ( and
GtJava/KDEJava (

doesn't integrate with other languages,

Not sure what to make of this -- C doesn't integrate much either.
Actually a number of languages can be compiled to Java bytecode.

 and can be a real pig to install and run.

Unlike the automake/autoconf system, which never gives us any trouble at
all.  I've seen easy-to-install Java programs and bitch-to-install C

All the huge amount of grief involved in java isn't worth being able
to use a couple of Eclipse functions.

It's not just a couple of Eclipse functions.  It's the fact that the IDE
actually supports what I want to do: Finding usages, moving and
renaming, extracting methods, noticing dangerous practices, helping
write API docs, and numerous other things.  After 4 1/2 years using
IntelliJ, I feel crippled when I move back to Emacs.  Not that I can't
use what Emacs gives me (and add more myself), but there's a world of
difference between the two.  And C is just not structured enough to
allow that level of support.


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