Re: Diagram or similar that shows all shapes?
- From: christian ridderstrom gmail com
- To: Dia-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Diagram or similar that shows all shapes?
- Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:08:22 +0100
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Lars Clausen wrote:
A few comments:
A few? :)
Guess I got carried away...
* Something that was quite annoying is that some shapes take up a much
larger area than they appear to do on screen. Something that happened
frequently was that I got one or two extra blank pages, simply
because a shape extended invisibly to the next page. The connection
point is a good example of this. A very small thing on screen
compared to the extent it has.
Which shapes do this?
I'll try to create a list.
** Maybe it'd be nice if there was an option to display the "extent" of
all the shapes? (Or maybe the shapes should be changed to not have
such large extents).
There's a secret setting render_bounding_boxes (changeable in
~/.dia/persistence that turns such rendering on.
That'll come in handy when doing the list...
* In one case Dia reported a certain number of pages, but when printing
to Adobe PDF I actually got more pages.
There can be some issues when an object is on the edge, and the width of
a line may or may not get counted. Did the PS file have more pages,
too?
I don't know... I used Adobe to generate the PDF directly.
* Is there some way to figure out what the keyboard shortcuts are for
the different commands? (Assuming that commands without a shown
keyboard shortcut actually has one).
If they're not shown, they don't have one.
Some software show the keyboard shortcut for the command that was just
executed in the status bar. I find that very convenient.
Btw, the tool tips for the icons don't show the keyboard shortcut for that
icon/command. I suppose this all comes down to that the keyboard shortcuts
are actually implemented through the menus?
Alternatively, is there a way to assign your own keyboard shortcuts?
Yes, but it's turned off in GTK by default. Apparently too many people
set up shortcuts by accident and got confused. I don't remember the way
to set it offhand, but it's probably in gconf.
I'm mostly using it in Windows - I can look for an equivalent of course.
* I'd prefer being able to move objects around on screen using the
keyboard in certain cases. (Other drawing software lets you do this
using the arrow keys for instance. Is this possible in Dia?).
Not yet. It's been mentioned many times, and I did take a look at it
once but didn't quite far and removed the initial crud from the code.
It's a little tricky as long as text input is "always on" and also uses
the arrow keys. Once more, proper text input is a requirement for other
features.
What if some other keyboard shortcuts are used? Alt-<arrow> perhaps?
Another option would be to have the code checking what pages that will
be printed to be exectued when using the command 'Redraw'. (There
should be a keyboard shortcut for that command btw).
The redraw command should not be necessary, as in bug-free code it
should redraw appropriately automatically. Greying out outside a
rectangular area would be doable when doing the page break lines anyway,
but greying out "corner" empty pages would be harder.
Just greying out outside the rectangular area is a good start I think.
/Christian
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Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
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