Re: Matrix IRC bridge considered harmful

[Michael Gratton <mike vee net>]

On Wed, 12 Feb, 2020 at 12:30, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro gnome org> 
wrote:
> (b) Replace our IRC with an actual Matrix server, so we get native 
> Matrix. Matrix is very nice as long as you're not using the abysmal 
> IRC bridge, which is unfit for purpose.

+1

The usability of IRC is terrible for normal people and when there's a 
TZ difference. In fact, having a web interface is actually a great boon 
for non-technical people, since at most people using Linux are able to 
create an account on a web site.

Using something that isn't libre and that doesn't have a CoC is going 
to inevitably end up being the same kind of disaster as GitHub and 
GitLab when the company ends up being trash and/or they pull the 
freemium carpet out from under us.

Further, anything that isn't libre and that doesn't have a native GNOME 
client is a massive show of no confidence in our own platform. Fractal 
isn't perfect, but it's better than no client.

Personally I'd like to see XMPP being used, but we don't have any 
decent, modern, native clients (although Dino is shaping up pretty 
nicely - https://dino.im/) and it seems to have been put in the 
too-hard basket by too many people.

So despite it's failings, I'd rather see us use Matrix rather than IRC 
or something like RocketChat.

//Mike

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