Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

I think we could have a set number of icons displayed and more in the system menu. The problems comes from the usability with touchscreens, where the icons would be to small.

I wonder how Windows doors it with its Tablet mode though. Does it just hide everything?

Le dim. 24 mars 2019 à 04:58, Link Dupont <link sub-pop net> a écrit :
I second the request to revisit this. Britt's argument about
fragmenting the user experience makes a lot of sense. Is there a place
in the System menu (the top-right corner menu) where these application
icons + menus could live? The GSConnect extension adds an entry there.

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM, Britt Yazel <bwyazel gnome org> wrote:
> Ladies and Gentlemen,
> Congrats on an excellent 3.32 release! As the one handling the front
> facing side of our social media accounts, I can safely say that the
> users are EXTREMELY happy with the changes, both features and
> performance, so give yourselves a nice pat on the back :-)
> I want to re-poen an old argument now that we have seen the effects
> of removing the sys-tray/app-indicator tray for well over a year. In
> short, the users are not happy. I believe our goals of putting
> pressure on application developers to ditch the antiquated
> app-indicator model fell mostly on deaf ears, and not having the
> sys-tray icons is mostly a nuisance for people, and big pain point
> for many.
> Our users (myself included) and our software partners (Ubuntu,
> System76, Purism) have reverted to using extensions to return this
> behavior. Some use KStatusNotifier, some use TopIcons/Plus/Redux, and
> the point I'm making is that we have forced our users to fragment
> themselves between many solutions, some decent and some fully broken,
> for what they perceive as base level functionality. An example of
> this biting us in the arse is that with 3.32 TopIcons is causing the
> CPU usage to run through the roof, and people are blaming the Shell
> for the CPU usage, not the extension, leaving our users with a bad
> taste in their mouths.
> So to sum up, most users who I talk to on social media and in person
> are using many different 3rd party solutions for sys-tray icons, and
> this fragmented approach is hurting our image, annoying our users,
> and is fragmenting our user experience to the point of actual
> detriment. I think we need to re-evaluate a solution for 3.34, and
> that this should be a focus this cycle. I believe that there is an
> elegant solution to handling sys-tray icons without sacrificing our
> core goals, one idea being to incorporate it into the Dash. However,
> I don't think we should go forward into 3.34+ without a 1st party
> solutions in place for how to treat sys-tray icons, because (sadly)
> they're not going anywhere.
> Cheers!
> -Britt Yazel

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