Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules
- From: Peter Hutterer <peter hutterer who-t net>
- To: mcatanzaro gnome org, jtojnar gmail com
- Cc: Desktop Devel <desktop-devel-list gnome org>, Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>
- Subject: Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules
- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 11:07:34 +1000
On 26/4/19 24:56 , mcatanzaro gnome org wrote:
Hard to believe this is a serious discussion that we're actually having.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 7:02 AM, jtojnar--- via desktop-devel-list
<desktop-devel-list gnome org> wrote:
On Thu, 25 Apr, 2019 at 11:21 AM, Daniel Playfair Cal via
desktop-devel-list <desktop-devel-list gnome org> wrote:
"master/slave" -> "leader/follower"
Please note that leader/follower terms are commonly associated with
exploitation of people by cults and should be avoided as well.
Since it's impossible to tell what the intended tone here is: was this a
serious request to avoid the terminology, or a joke intended to make a
point? (I'm guessing the later?)
I'm a German native speaker and to me the word "leader" has definite
negative connotations, for the obvious historical reasons.
For some reason the same connotations don't occur where context is
available like "thought leader" or "leader of their academic field".
Languages/brains are weird. But just "leader" on it's own? Not good.
Likewise, "follower" is weird. In a sports context it works, otherwise
it has a religious/cult/submissive context.
Which is the crux of the matter really: whatever you're going to pick
will have different connotations in other languages. Many ESL speakers
will primarily think in their own language and substitute the words to
English. So if you want to change terminology, I suggest getting a
domain expert involved rather than 'randomly' picking something that
sounds good to a small set of developers. That's how the original
master/slave wording was decided on after all.
Cheers,
Peter
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