Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

[Ty Young <youngty1997 gmail com>]

On 4/22/19 4:12 PM, Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-04-22 at 15:50 -0500, Ty Young via desktop-devel-list
> wrote:
> > On 4/22/19 9:42 AM, Shaun McCance wrote:
> > > I can't speak to the rest of this long email, but I can clarify one
> > > thing:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2019-04-19 at 18:05 -0500, Ty Young via desktop-devel-list
> > > wrote:
> > > > A) Calling "activities" the "overview". These are used
> > > > interchangeably. Search "overview" in Gnome Software and you will
> > > > get
> > > > extensions that affect "activities" and call "activities" the
> > > > "overview". While I made a mistake and switched to overview it is
> > > > still technically correct(or at least no one can agree on what to
> > > > call it).
> > > The screen you get when you click Activities or use the hot corner
> > > is
> > > called "the Activities overview". That's what it's called (or
> > > should be
> > > called) in all official documentation. If random redditers just say
> > > "activities" or "the overview" in casual conversation, that doesn't
> > > particularly bother me. It would be nice if extension developers
> > > would
> > > use the correct term in their descriptions though.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Shaun
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification Shaun. This is known by all Gnome 3
> > developers correct? If so, why was no correction ever made
> Honestly, probably not. It's not like we have some sort of official
> terminology training course before people become GNOME developers, and
> the documentation team has unfortunately been unable to maintain a good
> terminology list for some time now. Consistent terminology is good, but
> I'm not going to chase people down on every social media platform
> telling them what words to use.


Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't expect anyone to do that either. 
/r/gnome is the official Gnome subreddit however and "poor discussion" 
is supposedly not allowed(bit vague but whatever) which one would think 
would include trolling and incorrect information. Instead of correcting 
or removing these comments they are instead allowed to stay up, which is 
why I want a correction to be made.


> >   and the
> > trolling and "poor discussion" allowed(and still is) to continue?
> > Why
> > are the rules of the official Gnome 3 subreddit applied only when
> > the
> > moderators feel like it? Why are articles/blog/discussion posts
> > discussing Gnome 3 in a negative light being removed even though they
> > do
> > not break any of the mobile-only-visible rules?
> I'm not sure what terminology has to do with trolling? And I didn't see
> any outright trolling in any of the links you provided. Maybe I missed
> something. I saw some disagreements, and a couple cases where poeple
> probably could have worded something a little nicer, but nothing I'd
> ever ban someone for. (I'm not a mod.)


Ah, didn't know that you weren't a mod. Many of the comments in that 
Reddit thread are sarcastic comments on the use of the word "overview" 
instead of "activities" as if it was wrong or incorrect among other 
things from my medium post.


> Anyway, d-d-l is almost certainly not the place for this conversation.


Agreed. Apologies. Is there an active list where this can be brought up 
that is actually active? Gnome has like 50 and most aren't active at all.


> If you think users on /r/gnome are doing something bad, you should take
> it up with the mods. If you think the mods are doing something bad, you
> should take it to the Foundation board.


There is a bit of a conflict of interest there. The same mods on the 
subreddit are also moderators of the subreddit.


> --
> Shaun
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