With the new notifications panel, if you find notifications from a
certain source annoying you can disable them. Also, in the online
accounts panel you don't have to add what you don't want to. If these
notifications distract you, just don't add them in the first place.
We already have Facebook and Google as sources in GOA, as well as Flickr
and Windows Live. While I am myself fighting for freedom on our
platforms, and I fully agree Diaspora would be a nice addition, I don't
see what keeps us to integrate our desktop to other websites for those
users that would like to use them anyway.
Choosing to fire up a browser and go visit that website (authenticating
inside Epiphany/Firefox), or choosing to manually add an online account
(authenticating with g-o-a) only changes the interaction medium, but
it's up to the user to decide what to do.
I am just proposing to have a generic framework to handle messages from
social networks for those users who care to keep notifications enabled /
manually configure them in GOA. StatusNet (and Identi.ca) is another
free-software example of something that could benefit from this
approach. As you see, there are free-software alternatives to
proprietary ones, and they shouldn't be penalized. The framework would
be source-agnostic.
In fact, I believe that having Identi.ca supported by GOA would help
boost its popularity, making it a more prominent alternative against,
for instance, Twitter.
That said, other desktop environments such as Mac OS X Mountain Lion,
and Windows 8, both have integrated support for these things. I am not
saying "let's do like they do", just pointing out that there might be a
use case for users migrating from other platforms to GNOME.
Cheers,
Matteo
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Oggetto: Re: Two 3.10 feature ideas
Data: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 00:30:42 +0300
The first idea sounds good, but I don't think the second one is worth
anyone's effort.
Just a personal opinion, but as a Facebook user in the past, I've seen
how loads of notifications keep you addicted and distracted and don't
let you do the useful things you planned to do.
There may be some use to such notifications, but basically - you would
just be helping Facebook, Twitter and Google+ get more people addicted.
And all three of them are proprietary and have known storied about how
they use people's private data...
So in my opinion, working on these notifications is one of the most
not-important things we can possibly work on. I prefer to fix random
bugs than help Facebook track people and control their lives.
I know Google sponsors Gnome, but it doesn't change the fact I fight for
software freedom, and I don't want to use Facebook or Twitter or Google
mail/docs service. I do use this GMail mailbox, but I know it's bad and
I'm looking for replacements. There's Diaspora, for example.
I know many people here actually work for RedHat, but all those of you
who care about software freedom purely: Do you really want
Facebook/Google/Twitter to take over the desktop? If they do, Gnome will
become just another desktop environment, not any better than Windows.
Freedom and privacy are killer features, ladies and gentlemen. At least
in my humble opinion. Let's not give up on them so easily.
But do go ahead with the Evolution idea :)
- Anatoly Krasner
On ה', 2013-04-11 at 22:09 +0200, Daniel Mustieles García wrote:
For the first idea, maybe something like this could be useful:
http://code.google.com/p/gnome-gmail-notifier/
I've been using it in both GNOME 2 and GNOME 3 ant id works properly
with notifications, so it would be a good starter point.
Cheers!
2013/4/11 Matteo Settenvini <matteo-ml member fsf org>
Dear all,
unfortunately, I don't know if I will have the manpower in the
next six
months to contribute actively to GNOME, so I'm just dropping
two ideas
for features here. I believe they would benefit a good number
of users.
* Finally have evolution display notifications for new
messages while
the main UI is not open. There was a proposal in this
direction several
cycles ago, but I believe it was postponed indefinitely. Has
evolution-data-server all the needed pieces? This is not
conceptually
much different than notifications for new chat messages. Sure,
it can be
achieved by some another different small program which needs
to be
configured separately, but it would be nice to have this well
integrated
with the rest of the GNOME experience.
* Add social network notifications. Some of them could be
read-only
notifications (e.g. for Google+, which does not provide a
write API),
others could afford to offer an interface similar to the one
used for
chat (e.g. for Facebook and Twitter) where you can respond.
Gwibber
attempted to do some of these things, but a solution
integrated with
g-o-a (which already has the authentication pieces in place) +
gnome-shell seem to make much sense.
Anyway, thanks for your strenuous work!
Cheers,
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Email : matteo member fsf org
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