With the new notifications panel, if you find notifications from a certain source annoying you can disable them. Also, in the online accounts panel you don't have to add what you don't want to. If these notifications distract you, just don't add them in the first place. We already have Facebook and Google as sources in GOA, as well as Flickr and Windows Live. While I am myself fighting for freedom on our platforms, and I fully agree Diaspora would be a nice addition, I don't see what keeps us to integrate our desktop to other websites for those users that would like to use them anyway. Choosing to fire up a browser and go visit that website (authenticating inside Epiphany/Firefox), or choosing to manually add an online account (authenticating with g-o-a) only changes the interaction medium, but it's up to the user to decide what to do. I am just proposing to have a generic framework to handle messages from social networks for those users who care to keep notifications enabled / manually configure them in GOA. StatusNet (and Identi.ca) is another free-software example of something that could benefit from this approach. As you see, there are free-software alternatives to proprietary ones, and they shouldn't be penalized. The framework would be source-agnostic. In fact, I believe that having Identi.ca supported by GOA would help boost its popularity, making it a more prominent alternative against, for instance, Twitter. That said, other desktop environments such as Mac OS X Mountain Lion, and Windows 8, both have integrated support for these things. I am not saying "let's do like they do", just pointing out that there might be a use case for users migrating from other platforms to GNOME. Cheers, Matteo ------- Messaggio inoltrato ------- Da: אנטולי קרסנר <tombackton gmail com> A: daniel mustieles gmail com CC: matteo member fsf org, GNOME Desktop Development List <desktop-devel-list gnome org> Oggetto: Re: Two 3.10 feature ideas Data: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 00:30:42 +0300 The first idea sounds good, but I don't think the second one is worth anyone's effort. Just a personal opinion, but as a Facebook user in the past, I've seen how loads of notifications keep you addicted and distracted and don't let you do the useful things you planned to do. There may be some use to such notifications, but basically - you would just be helping Facebook, Twitter and Google+ get more people addicted. And all three of them are proprietary and have known storied about how they use people's private data... So in my opinion, working on these notifications is one of the most not-important things we can possibly work on. I prefer to fix random bugs than help Facebook track people and control their lives. I know Google sponsors Gnome, but it doesn't change the fact I fight for software freedom, and I don't want to use Facebook or Twitter or Google mail/docs service. I do use this GMail mailbox, but I know it's bad and I'm looking for replacements. There's Diaspora, for example. I know many people here actually work for RedHat, but all those of you who care about software freedom purely: Do you really want Facebook/Google/Twitter to take over the desktop? If they do, Gnome will become just another desktop environment, not any better than Windows. Freedom and privacy are killer features, ladies and gentlemen. At least in my humble opinion. Let's not give up on them so easily. But do go ahead with the Evolution idea :) - Anatoly Krasner On ה', 2013-04-11 at 22:09 +0200, Daniel Mustieles García wrote:
For the first idea, maybe something like this could be useful: http://code.google.com/p/gnome-gmail-notifier/ I've been using it in both GNOME 2 and GNOME 3 ant id works properly with notifications, so it would be a good starter point. Cheers! 2013/4/11 Matteo Settenvini <matteo-ml member fsf org> Dear all, unfortunately, I don't know if I will have the manpower in the next six months to contribute actively to GNOME, so I'm just dropping two ideas for features here. I believe they would benefit a good number of users. * Finally have evolution display notifications for new messages while the main UI is not open. There was a proposal in this direction several cycles ago, but I believe it was postponed indefinitely. Has evolution-data-server all the needed pieces? This is not conceptually much different than notifications for new chat messages. Sure, it can be achieved by some another different small program which needs to be configured separately, but it would be nice to have this well integrated with the rest of the GNOME experience. * Add social network notifications. Some of them could be read-only notifications (e.g. for Google+, which does not provide a write API), others could afford to offer an interface similar to the one used for chat (e.g. for Facebook and Twitter) where you can respond. Gwibber attempted to do some of these things, but a solution integrated with g-o-a (which already has the authentication pieces in place) + gnome-shell seem to make much sense. Anyway, thanks for your strenuous work! Cheers, -- Matteo Settenvini FSF Associated Member Email : matteo member fsf org -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS/E d--(-) s+: a- C+++ UL+++ P+ L++++>$ E++>+++ W+++ N+ o? w--- O M- V- PS++ PE- Y+>++ PGP+++ t++ 5 X- R+ !tv b+++ DI++ D++ G++ e++ h+ r++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
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