Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

[Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org>]

On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 17:24 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Philip Withnall <philip tecnocode co uk> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 09:51 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Is this really the right thing to do. Even the Microsoft page
> >> > uses the rather wishy-washy "Consider using the ratio symbol",
> >> > as if they're not quite sure this is a good idea. It does look
> >> > nicer, but it's semantically wrong. A time is not a ratio. How
> >> > does Orca read it?
> >>
> >> I don't really have an answer to the philosophical question of what a
> >> 'ratio' really is and whether
> >> 9-colon-49 is any more correct than 9-ratio-49 when it comes to
> >> representing time.
> >>
> >> But I can say that Orca reads the one like the other: "nine fortynine".
> >
> > Perhaps more importantly, the ratio character behaves differently in RtL
> > locales than the colon character does. See:
> > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2012/02/09/10265712.aspx
> >
> > If I write 09:53 with a colon, it’ll remain left-to-right in RtL locales
> > because the colon is a Unicode number separator. If I write 09∶53 with a
> > ratio character, it’ll appear as 53∶09 in RtL locales. (Tested in
> > gedit.)
> >
> > Is this the behaviour we want?
> 
> I'd say its up to the translators of each locale to say what format is
> most appropriate for their language. Date and time formats are
> translatable for a reason...

It hadn't occurred to me to make the time display on audio/video
controls translatable in yelp-xsl. I used to mark a lot more for
translation, but I scaled back on the formatting stuff when I saw
nobody did legitimate translations of them.

I looked at the po files in totem and gnome-shell. Nobody seems
to actually translate how times are formatted. Date format, yes.
And there's the difference between using 12- or 24-hour clocks.
But when it comes down to the format HH:MM:SS, nobody translates
it. It's always the same.

--
Shaun