On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 16:11 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:^^^ Still not an insult.
> On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:58 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > > Hello Federico,
> > >
> > > Em Mon, 2012-04-23 às 20:58 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero escreveu:
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > From http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct
> > > "Assume people mean well"
> >
> > Federico made no statements as to anybody's intentions or motivations.
> >
> > For reference, this is is what it looks like when you assume somebody
> > doesn't mean well:
> >
> > "Person X did Y wrong BECAUSE he/she is evil."
> >
> > This, however, is just a disagreement about what a person did:
> >
> > "Person X did Y wrong."
> >
> > We have to be able to disagree with people's actions and to discuss
> > those disagreements publicly. If we can't, our community dies.
>
> I'm sorry, but thinly veiled insults are still insults.
>
> --8<--
> From: Maître D'
> Subject: Spitting in the soup
>
> The kitchen staff IS NOT welcome to:
>
> * Spit in the soup
> --8<--
Federico didn't say this. I may have implied it in my email to
> "I didn't say you spat in the soup"
Emmanuele. I'm sorry for that. I worded my response poorly.
I stand by my assertion that you aren't NOT assuming somebody
means well if you don't ascribe motivation. You can very well
assume somebody has the best intentions at heart and still
vehemently disagree with their actions.
It's clear there is a non-negligible group of people who feel
> Trying to hide the fact that Federico was venting for whatever reason
> isn't going to help keep this community any more healthy.
disenfranchised. Trying to hide that fact isn't going to help
either. Whether or not anybody has done anything wrong, we have
to figure out why people feel this way.
--
Shaun
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