Re: Boxes and 3.4

[William Jon McCann <william jon mccann gmail com>]

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org> wrote:
> Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011, à 10:31 +0100, William Jon McCann a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org> wrote:
>> > Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011, à 00:37 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>    As most of you know, we proposed Boxes for 3.4 and from what I can
>> >> tell, there were no big objections in the end. There was then the
>> >> question of us actually delivering in time. As seen on planet GNOME
>> >> not long after that, we delivered the first release which was included
>> >> in 3.3.2. There is still a long way ahead to make Boxes the awesome
>> >> app that we all would like it to be but to ensure that Boxes is in
>> >> good enough shape for 3.4 inclusion in time, we would like to know a
>> >> few things:
>> >>
>> >> * which features exactly are must?
>> >> * is the plan to keep vinagre in 3.4 alongside boxes?
>> >> * is Boxes going to be a 'preview' feature in 3.4 like Documents was in 3.2?
>> >>
>> >>  Release team? everyone?
>> >
>> > I'm sorry, but I still have the same objection :-) And talking to a few
>> > people, I understood that I'm not alone in feeling that Boxes might not
>> > fit core GNOME (even as a core app [1]).
>>
>> Can you be more specific about the reasons for your objection?
>
> As mentioned in the previous thread: I don't think Boxes is needed for
> what is our main target audience. And let me state again that it is a
> nice tool for a small part of our users (including our own community).

The only thing you mentioned in the other thread that I saw was a
feeling that it wasn't right. Can you explain why you don't think it
is useful and for what audience?

>> Do you feel the same way about Vinagre?
>
> To me, the main use case of Vinagre is remote desktop administration,
> when coupled with Vino. And that's actually why we added vino in 2.8 (to
> help sysadmins help users), and then vinagre in 2.22 (nice complement to
> vino).
>
> The vino/vinagre duo is/was oriented towards sysadmins (although it
> could be used for other use cases).

Do you think these should not be part of the GNOME core?

Jon