Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

[Ghee Teo <ghee teo oracle com>]

On 21/03/2011 17:27, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ghee Teo<ghee teo oracle com>  wrote:
> > On 21/03/2011 17:02, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teo<ghee teo oracle com>    wrote:
> > > > On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +0000, Ghee Teo wrote:
> > > > > > I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for
> > > > > > GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is *not*
> > > > > > supporting .xz by default yet. This means, anyone who want to
> > > > > > compile source code modules will have difficulties.
> > > > > That is exactly what I meant.
> > > > >
> > > > > So:
> > > > > How do Solaris users get GNOME packages? Via ftp.gnome.org?
> > > > Yes. We download them from ftp.gnome.org.
> > > By "we", do you mean end users or packagers?
> > My "we" refers to users.
> > > Aren't only packagers (and distro build servers, etc) and advanced
> > > users impacted by the change to .xz?
> > No. packagers are the source codes providers.
> > Users are the source code consumers.
> I was assuming this model:
>
> Maintainers are source code providers.  Packagers consume and produce
> binary packages.  End-users consume those binaries and don't care
> about how the packagers get the source code.
Ok. We are just using different terminology. My users is really your 
Packagers.
In one of the mail replied to Olav earlier on still awaiting moderator 
approval explained more.
But the basic difficulty is that xz is still not provided by Solaris 11 
by default yet.
While we as the Desktop packager in Oracle could maintain a private 
copy, but other Solaris packagers will have to do the same and that is 
not nice.

-Ghee

> > GNOME requires both groups of users to exist meaningfully :)
> Sure.  I guess I just didn't realize that Solaris end users were
> consuming GNOME source tarballs.
>
> Sandy