Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

[Alexander Neundorf <neundorf kde org>]

On Sunday 24 July 2011, Ben Cooksley wrote:
> 2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi <ebassi gmail com>:
> > hi;
> > 
> > 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau <agateau kde org>:
> >> Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed
> >> computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System
> >> Settings would not be installed.
> >> 
> >> You are only likely to get both System Settings pre-installed if your
> >> computer was shipped with both KDE and Gnome desktops. In this
> >> situation, I assume you would be provided with some explanation as to
> >> what KDE and Gnome are.
> > 
> > installing both Gnome and KDE is not equivalent to running both at the
> > same time.
> > 
> > if you managed to get yourself into the scenario where KDE and Gnome
> > have been installed at the same time then the KDE system settings
> > shell should be marked as NotShowIn=Gnome, and the Gnome one should be
> > NotShowIn=KDE. currently, gnome-control-center uses:
> > 
> >  OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity;
> > 
> > so a menu rendered under KDE won't show it. now, googling a bit I found
> > this:
> > 
> >  https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102038/
> > 
> > which is, I guess, what really prompted this thread. so, if the KDE
> > system settings shell appears alongside any other system settings
> > shell it means that the users are not running KDE, but are running any
> > other XDG-recognised desktop.
> > 
> >>> there is no "here and now" — that would be a hack. I hardly think we
> >>> have to solve this *quickly*, so we should solve it correctly.
> >> 
> >> Releases are conflicting right *now*, so yes, I think there is a need to
> >> solve it quickly, even if the first fix is a short-term one.
> > 
> > the short-term fix is to make the KDE system settings OnlyShowIn=KDE,
> > so that users running KDE will not have any issue, and every other
> > desktop will correctly not show the KDE system settings shell.
> 
> Wrong. Emmanuele, read my initial email to see why that is not an
> acceptable solution under any circumstances.
> It has to be shown in some form, regardless of the name, under all
> desktop environments.

Yes, Ben is absolutely right here.

It is used for setting up a whole lot of stuff like widget style, colors, 
printing, file associations etc. for application which link against KDE 
libraries, but can be run perfectly fine not only in Plasma, but also in other 
window managers/desktop environments.

Alex