Re: Request for removing clutter in current form

[Jud Craft <craftjml gmail com>]

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Jason D. Clinton<me jasonclinton com> wrote:
>
> This has been fixed for quite some time including on KDE so "out in the
> cold" would be false hyperbole.

I apologize.  Referring to the video garbage issue, by reading the two
bug reports I linked I can still see people who respond saying the
issue isn't fixed on their cards.

I still notice the video garbage issue with OpenOffice myself under
Fedora 11/GNOME.  I'm using UXA with an Intel 965.

>> Or that you run into problems on some intel cards with 3D composited
>> desktops and multimonitor setups.  (Due to the 2048x2048 problem).  Or
>> glitches in TV output.

Compiz locks up my screen whenever I use the Magnifier plugin with a
TV output source enabled (though that one probably needs a bug filed).

I still get strange video garbage in gtk-window-decorate and Firefox
at times, when resuming from standby.  It's such a transient bug that
I never even think of helping to track it down ("Who'd believe me,
anyway?") but it's a bother too.

> Or that UXA is still undergoing stabilization.
> UXA has been considered stable since at least Intel 2.5.0. There have been
> three point releases since then. There have been other issues but 2.8.0 is
> rock-solid.

As for UXA, perhaps a better term would have been "optimization".
Keith Packard says in his blog ("Sharpening the Intel Driver Focus")
that the recent advent of UXA and kernel modesetting has led to some
performance regressions in X, and I believe him even without various
posts and anecdoctes on the planet blogs about driver slowdown
compared to XAA.  I consider Fedora to be pretty "up with the times",
so I imagine my laptop is a representation of the near-current state
of X.  His post is from April, so perhaps I'm behind the times.

> I am curious where you got all your mis-information. If you could, could you
> pass along these answers to wherever it is that you heard all of this
> incorrect information? Doing so will help us nip some of this hysteria in
> the bud.

Pardon my nitpicking, but you dismantled my post point-by-point, so I
felt compelled to respond in turn.  I don't mean for it to be
hysteria, but I sympathize with anyone who says "this stuff isn't
great".  My personal Linux graphics experience is improving, but to
say "it's great right now" is a bit of a long shot.

"Pretty darn good" compared to what it used to be, certainly.