RE: GNOME vs KDE vs Xfce vs Win7DWM vs Apple Quartz?

First of all thank you for reply for Pascal and Louis. I would like to stress
that I'm not person who would like to make provocation nor my intention
was to do something like that.

Also I know that people do not want to waste their time speaking on
this topic, but I believe as Operating System started to be studied on
CS departments, I believe that DE is also one emerging area which will
be studied also in future.

I just wanted to order list of mentioned DE regarding startup time needed,
memory consumption, etc. Also I would like to stress that we are experiencing
some kind of convergence in some areas of DE. For example, KDE "invented"
D-Bus architecture which GNOME accepted. KDE "invented" KHTML which
Apple took-over and made WebKit which wil be integrated into GNOME as well.
What I want to say - we see that one technology originally emerged in one DE
easily appear in another DE. If thechnology is the same than applications that
uses them should have same speed. Also, by the way GNOME "invented" Vala,
and it becomes more and more popular among communities other than GNOME.

And, for the end of this reply - when, for example, Mathematica release its Linux
version, is it for GNOME, KDE, Xfce, or some fourth DE? How do they make decisions
for which DE their version will be linked?


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> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:45:12 +0100
> From: liberforce freeside fr
> To: desktop-devel-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: GNOME vs KDE vs Xfce vs Win7DWM vs Apple Quartz?
> Le 16/12/2009 00:09, Pascal Terjan a écrit :
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 18:37, Uros Nedic<urosn live com> wrote:
> >> Could we make consensus which is the fastest desktop environment
> >> or not?
> >
> > No
> Nice one, Pascal :-p
> I'm going to try to explain what is behind this "no". Well Uros, I think
> you'll find nobody here to waste time for that. This kind of question is
> pretty much useless, because it's too vague and impossible to measure
> (and will always be a neverending debate). You can measure startup
> times, memory used, or time required to perform action A or B, or
> whatever, but you can't talk about "speed" for a desktop environment,
> unless you're talking of a "feeling of speed". This can't be measured
> and will vary from person to person.
> Furthermore, benchmarking stuff is extremely time consuming, and to be
> accurate you need to test each candidate under the same conditions (same
> distro, same compiler used, same hardware, etc.). And what if the file
> manager from desktop A is faster than the one from desktop B, but the
> web browser from B is faster than the one from A ? How can you tell that
> way which DE is the fastest ? Put one person using massively the file
> manager and one other using mostly his browser, and they'll disagree
> completely on "which DE is the fastest". So if you really want to know,
> you're left to the old "Do it yourself" method. And you'll find out
> which one is the fastest *for you*.
> But for me the best Desktop Environment isn't necessarily the fastest.
> It's the one that does the job (even better if it's fast, for sure).
> Cheers,
> --
> Luis
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