Re: Proposed external dependency: WebKit/GTK+
- From: Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org>
- To: David Bolter <david bolter utoronto ca>
- Cc: Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>, desktop-devel-list gnome org, Frederic Peters <fpeters 0d be>
- Subject: Re: Proposed external dependency: WebKit/GTK+
- Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:48:47 -0500
David Bolter wrote:
> Well I think the elephant in the room here is WAI-ARIA support for
> accessible DHTML (i.e. accessible Web2.0 applications). Last I checked
> this work is being done for WebKit by Apple engineers, and a Google
> engineer. Although the Firefox accessibility hackers have trail blazed
> this work and even provided a helpful implementor's guide [1], it is
> still a significant effort indeed.
I thought this was more about implementing ATK support in webkit? Or are the
two the same? I can't imagine how we wouldn't need GNOME-specific code for a
widget to be accessible. Or is that code already there?
behdad
> Other that that, I think over the past year work was done to move some
> of Safari's (non-ARIA) accessibility into a platform agnostic
> architecture. I think Alp then put in the GNOME atk bindings.
>
> I know WebKit is fashionable these days, but I don't think we should be
> too hasty here. If we going to switch let's do it for the right reasons.
>
> [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en/ARIA_User_Agent_Implementors_Guide
>
> cheers,
> David
>
>
>
> Willie Walker wrote:
>> For me, one of the most important problems we face with WebKit is its
>> lack of accessibility support right now. I have a great fear that Alp
>> may have grossly underestimated the scope of the work. I have some
>> confidence, however, that the WebKit folks who were at GNOME Boston
>> should be able to do a decent analysis of what it will take to add it.
>>
>> I so wish I wrote down all the names of the WebKit folks that were at
>> GNOME Boston. I'd like to follow up to see how their exploration is
>> coming along.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 18:48 +0100, Richard Hult wrote:
>>
>>> Frederic Peters wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2008-August/msg00001.html
>>>>
>>>> + WebKit/GTK+ (external dependency):
>>>> - lots of community support
>>>> - accessibility support might not be good enough (no reply from
>>>> WebKit/GTK+ people)
>>>> - epiphany will still use Gecko for 2.24
>>>> - yelp is still using Gecko at the moment (there's a WebKit branch)
>>>> - devhelp trunk is WebKit-only
>>>> - evolution people intend to use WebKit in 2.26
>>>> - we'd prefer to avoid depending on both Gecko and WebKit at the same
>>>> time
>>>> => rejected for 2.24, but we'll propose a general switch for 2.26
>>>>
>>> Ah, thanks. I'll keep hacking away in trunk and hope we can ship that
>>> for 2.26 then (and fall back to the old branch again if not).
>>>
>>> /Richard
>>>
>>>
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