Re: notification enhancements

["Laurent Belmonte" <laurent belmonte gmail com>]

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On 4/25/07, Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Christian Hammond wrote:
> >
> > You say there's no way imaginable to use libnotify, but I'm curious why?
>
> It just won't work. Look at the Mugshot notifications, look at what
> libnotify supports. (If you don't want to install mugshot, just look at
> someone's page on mugshot.org, the local client notifications are about
> the same as the stacker blocks on the web site, except a little more
> complex even)
>
> It isn't just a graphic design issue; Mugshot has all kinds of links and
> thumbnails and a chat log and other stuff in the notifications. It would
> be a substantially worse user experience if reduced to only title +
> summary + some buttons.
>
> Another aspect is that Mugshot has the "stacker" concept where the
> notifications are one block out of a stack of blocks, but you can also
> view the whole stack either in the client or on the web site. With
> libnotify we couldn't do this either. It's important that the blocks
> look similar in popup form, and in the client and web versions of the stack.
>
> Right now there's a tradeoff of course, where the Mugshot fancy
> notifications collide oddly with other notifications, but that's what
> I'm posting about fixing. I don't want to throw the baby out with the
> bathwater, though.
>
> > Why can't this use libnotify? Same reason as Mugshot? Or is this a part
> > of Mugshot?
>
> This one is just a short list of features not in the libnotify protocol
> (bold text in buttons, for example). It is less "extreme" than mugshot.
>
> >     A simple extension of that API would also provide calls or signals to
> >     detect idleness and fullscreen app / screensaver. Or perhaps it's
> >     simpler than that - maybe when an app is fullscreen or the user is idle,
> >     the daemon claims "I am showing something" and thus blocks all other
> >     notifications.
> >
> >
> > Not sure I follow this one.. If an app is fullscreen or hte user is
> > idle, notification-daemon should claim it's showing a notification? Why?
>
> I was saying first, you could have methods like IsIdle() or
> IsFullscreenActive()
>
> but then second, maybe instead of having those methods, just have
> notification-daemon lie and say there was an active notification in
> those cases. Then other apps would not show a notification.
>
> >       - take over the notification service from notification-daemon and
> >         provide the same D-Bus API
> >
> >
> > This seems like a bad idea. We can do better. notification-daemon is
> > pretty well established and people are used to seeing notifications, so
> > suddenly pulling them out from under the user is probably undesirable.
>
> The point would be to have mugshot display them instead; the user
> experience would be unchanged perhaps, if we got ambitious and
> cut-and-pasted or librarified the theme code.
>
> Havoc
>
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