Re: Sorry State

[Arturo González <arturogf ugr es>]

El mié, 08--2006 a las 12:29 +0100, Rodrigo Moya escribió:
> On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 10:42 +0100, Arturo González wrote:
> > El mié, 08--2006 a las 10:10 +0100, Manu Cornet escribió: 
> > > 
> > > I'm not saying taking our time to discuss changes is wrong (of course
> > > not). But sometimes I just need to try something out. If there's a new
> > > feature proposal, and some developers find it is a bad idea, but it
> > > basically looks like a nice thing to try, then just let the guy code it,
> > > make it better, and then let everyone actually try it.
> > 
> > I totally agree with you. I'm not contributing to Gnome but i am on
> > other open source projects where lots of code goes to CVS repository.
> > If you have a 'big idea' then sometimes you *can't* put it on CVS
> > cause you will surely interrupt the roadmap for the next release, you
> > would surely need to have the consensus from a lot of people, and you
> > would surely put your efforts on that task: convincing people. If
> > instead of that, you go your way and develop a new feature you can
> > always share your feature in a near future, perhaps in a next stage.
> > So the problem here seems to be that was Novell Inc. who take this
> > approach, and it wasn't the less important guy in this world who did
> > it. Let's suppose that these changes were all done by somebody totally
> > unknown. Surely he would become the next most loved Gnome hacker "ey
> > look that guy!". My opinion is that community developers should wait
> > for Novell proposal to include it on Gnome 2.xx, or to make his own
> > fork to discuss about this new ('nice') injection of creativity on
> > Gnome. And of course, it must be discussed, but ... now come back to
> > your seat! :-).
> > 
> it surprises to me people are talking about forks. So far, Ximian, and
> then Novell, have always done "big" changes to the desktop, then include
> what maintainers accepted, and, in all these years, there has never been
> a fork, so, why do people talk about forks? It's not that Novell/Ximian
> is a newcomer to the GNOME world and has to demonstrate its good
> willings.

Hi Rodrigo,

Understand me in the right way, I talked about the unlikely possibility that this would happen. What I say is exactly that: please wait until Novell moves, because  it has always been nice to Gnome before. What Novell did is not a threat to nothing but people continue worrying about it..., so let come back to work :). 

Cheers,

Arturo.