Re: Sorry State

[Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org>]

On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 12:45 +0100, Arturo González wrote:
> El mié, 08--2006 a las 12:29 +0100, Rodrigo Moya escribió: 
> > On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 10:42 +0100, Arturo González wrote:
> > > El mié, 08--2006 a las 10:10 +0100, Manu Cornet escribió: 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not saying taking our time to discuss changes is wrong (of course
> > > > not). But sometimes I just need to try something out. If there's a new
> > > > feature proposal, and some developers find it is a bad idea, but it
> > > > basically looks like a nice thing to try, then just let the guy code it,
> > > > make it better, and then let everyone actually try it.
> > > 
> > > I totally agree with you. I'm not contributing to Gnome but i am on
> > > other open source projects where lots of code goes to CVS repository.
> > > If you have a 'big idea' then sometimes you *can't* put it on CVS
> > > cause you will surely interrupt the roadmap for the next release, you
> > > would surely need to have the consensus from a lot of people, and you
> > > would surely put your efforts on that task: convincing people. If
> > > instead of that, you go your way and develop a new feature you can
> > > always share your feature in a near future, perhaps in a next stage.
> > > So the problem here seems to be that was Novell Inc. who take this
> > > approach, and it wasn't the less important guy in this world who did
> > > it. Let's suppose that these changes were all done by somebody totally
> > > unknown. Surely he would become the next most loved Gnome hacker "ey
> > > look that guy!". My opinion is that community developers should wait
> > > for Novell proposal to include it on Gnome 2.xx, or to make his own
> > > fork to discuss about this new ('nice') injection of creativity on
> > > Gnome. And of course, it must be discussed, but ... now come back to
> > > your seat! :-).
> > > 
> > it surprises to me people are talking about forks. So far, Ximian, and
> > then Novell, have always done "big" changes to the desktop, then include
> > what maintainers accepted, and, in all these years, there has never been
> > a fork, so, why do people talk about forks? It's not that Novell/Ximian
> > is a newcomer to the GNOME world and has to demonstrate its good
> > willings.
> 
> Hi Rodrigo,
> 
> Understand me in the right way, I talked about the unlikely
> possibility that this would happen. What I say is exactly that: please
> wait until Novell moves, because  it has always been nice to Gnome
> before. What Novell did is not a threat to nothing but people continue
> worrying about it..., so let come back to work :). 
> 
yes, sorry, wasn't talking specifically to you, just to people
mentioning forks.

> 
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Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org>