Re: Integrated CD ripping/playing (instead of goobox/sound juicer)

[Isak Savo <iso01001 student mdh se>]

mån 2005-01-17 klockan 16:05 +0100 skrev Ronald S. Bultje:
> On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 15:44, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> > I read that gnome 2.10 will probably include a CD-ripping/playing
> > utility.  I think such a program should not be _in_ the gnome packages,
> > though, I'd like those functionalities in gnome, but more integrated.  
> > I'd like to be able to see the tracks on an audio CD in nautilus when I
> > insert one.
>
> Now, seriously, from a user point of view. Do you expect the user to
> know that Nautilus is your CD player or ripper by typing some obscure
> URI? 

Actually, from a users point of view, this could be exactly what they
expect (modulo the obscure URI thing). I had a hard time explaining for
my father (who is a OS X user) the difference between copying audio from
a CD (aka "Ripping") vs copying files from the CD (using normal file
browsing). He had to take my word for it that they are completely
different things.

If I didn't have a clue about ripping, my first choice would be to click
on the CD icon on my desktop and just drag the files to $HOME (or
wherever). This is in fact what I did try many years ago in windows.. It
didn't work :-)

> That's not what GNOME wants, imo... Sure, nautilus could pop up
> automagically (g-v-m!), but that only works when the CD is not yet in
> the drive. 
The icon is always there in "Computer". 

> I see a CD ripper in the same category as a video capture
> application or a digital camera picture retrieval tool. Nautilus does
> neither of them, with good reasons. Nautilus is too limited in what it
> can know or do, it's far out of scope for a file manager (imo). 

>From a technical stand point, perhaps. From a users point, why? What's
the difference between copying normal files and music "files"? 

/Isak