Final Modules List for the GNOME 2.4 Desktop Release
- From: Jeff Waugh <jdub perkypants org>
- To: GNOME Desktop Hackers <desktop-devel-list gnome org>, GNOME Hackers <gnome-hackers gnome org>
- Subject: Final Modules List for the GNOME 2.4 Desktop Release
- Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 05:48:16 +1000
Hooray! Here is the final modules list for the GNOME 2.4 Desktop Release!
It was a very tough process, as anyone who watched the d-d-l threads knows,
because all of the modules proposed for inclusion are top-notch, brilliant
pieces of GNOME software. Regardless of their status in the Desktop release,
just about everyone will be using them anyway. :-)
A complete list of the Developer Platform and Desktop modules can be found
under the 2.3 start page: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.3/modules/
We'll update GEP 11 with this list, and additional rationale for included
Note that all of these apps must continue to meet the standards of quality
laid out in GEP 10, or they may be removed prior to the final 2.4 release.
We would not expect that to happen very often, though. :-)
drwright (now part of control-center)
fontilus (now part of control-center)
themus (now part of control-center)
totem (using the gstreamer backend only, for this release)
This module was removed from the proposed modules list at the author's
request. Further work to enrich the energy saving infrastructure will
be done, so it looks like battfink will be proposed again for 2.6.
There was a lot of vocal support for Epiphany on the mailing list, but
little for Galeon. So, the consensus points to Epiphany. That was due
to a number of factors: The Epiphany project goals seem to be better
aligned with GNOME's goals, the Galeon developers do not seem to be
100% behind GNOME's goals; Epiphany has had regular releases for GNOME
2.3.x; the Epiphany hackers are working within the project to define
standards and code for toolbar editing and other functionality, etc.
While there are a lot of reservations about offending the Galeon
hackers, and great disappointment that the two projects have not been
able to cooperate, Epiphany does seem to have the consensus, and make
the most technical sense. That is not to say that Epiphany is without
faults, or that Galeon is not excellent software -> we do need to make
a choice at some stage: Right now there is strong support to add a
browser to the Desktop release, and strong support for that browser to
Paolo agreed to shift the most useful plugins into gedit, and remove
gedit-plugins from the proposed modules list. It will live on as a
separate cool-plugins-for-gedit package.
This module was not properly discussed until very late, but when
developers did give their opinions it seemed that most did not feel
this module was quite ready for GNOME 2.4. Everyone does think that
this is essential functionality that we hope will be ready for GNOME
2.6. The following reasons for this have been mentioned:
- They are not supported on non-linux platforms, such as FreeBSD.
This is not a big problem on Solaris, because SUN are not expected
to use them, but it is unusual.
- They have not been sufficiently tested. We need to be sure that
they work and that they work without damaging systems. We need to
encourage people to test them between now and the start of GNOME
2.6. For instance, they are already available on Debian Linux so
we hope to hear about the experiences of those users.
- There are significant user interface problems. These have been
acknowledged and the developers already plan to fix them before
To make it easier for these system tools to be included in GNOME 2.6
maybe they should be proposed individually. For instance, it would be
easy to accept the Date/Time and Users tools if they were not tied to
the more complicated Network tool. However, there is no need at the
moment to split these tools up into separate modules.
Also, GNOME developers might be more comfortable making decisions
about the tools if they knew exactly what configuration files are
changed and/or what command-line tools are called on the various
platforms. Although users don't want to know about these details, the
developers probably do. In general, these tool must be thoroughly
discussed before the 2.6 new-modules decision.
Everyone's very keen to include gswitchit, but it seems a bit early to
put it into 2.4 given discussions regarding previous generation and
cross platform X server support, queries about the user interface such
as integration with control centre, functionality goals, etc. We would
really like to see this included in 2.6, and hope that Sergey, the
control-center maintainers, the GUP and i18n projects can help work
out the remaining issues in time.
Whilst there was a lot of support for some of seahorse's features in
the desktop release, its current state exposes implementation in a way
that many users will not immediately grasp. There were suggestions
that it could integrate with an address book system, that it could
concentrate on the common use cases of encrypting files and checking
signatures, etc. On the whole, it's great, but the interface is very
GPG-oriented, and it doesn't deeply integrate into GNOME. Hopefully,
we'll see it up for proposal again for 2.6.
For the moment, Sound Juicer is somewhat out of place in the Desktop
release, because there is no real target of integration for it as yet
(such as music management software, Nautilus, the CD Player, etc). We
will definitely have to look at it again in the future, as our stable
of kickarse multimedia applications grows, and desktop integration
Thanks to all of the maintainers who proposed modules for this release!
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