Re: KDE and Gnome

[Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas broadpark no>]

tor, 28.08.2003 kl. 00.19 skrev Marcin Antczak:
> W liście z śro, 27-08-2003, godz. 23:05, Hongli Lai pisze: 
> > On Wednesday 27 August 2003 22:28, Marcin Antczak wrote:
> > > But to my surprise file selector is still under development, nautilus
> > > still lacks a lot of functionality etc... etc... old crap.
> > 
> > Speaking about the file selector, take a look at this:
> > http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3635
> > 
> > (But *don't look at page 5* of that thread! Some jerk from Slashdot posted an 
> > image to goatse.cx. I already contacted a moderator about this.)
> 
> I have gtk compiled with this patch... Well better than standard but
> still needs a lot of improvements...
> 
> For example I cannot sort folders in panel on left and they are unsorted
> by default what is annoying when I have to search on a long list.
> 
> bugs bugs bugs ;-) sorry 
> 
> 
> That's why I'm asking in my reply for Telsa Gwynne mail are there any
> _plans_ for gnome/gtk applications?
> 
Yes there are plans, and people following the mailing lists and the
general development are well aware of the plans. I think you could be
more courteous and spend some time reading mailing list archives before
posting questions and comments for things that have been discussed to
death many times in the past.

> Maybe developers/planners/users should first to draw some "fake" file
> selectors, then define it's behaviors (maybe some kind of uml model).
> Then decide what code to write and use? (Maybe reuse code from Nautilus
> maybe not.. ) just think before not after. What do you think?
> 
There's a module in CVS that has the fileselector work in it. It's
scheduled for gtk-2.4 on which GNOME 2.6.x will be based.

> I know that in Open Source community there is no management, but without
> clear vision we will have just a mess and not good free/open software...

This project has never been managed better IMO and it's definitely not
"just a mess"

You say there's a lot of regressions in 2.4.x and from the sound of it I
get the feeling you're comparing it against 1.4.x. That discussion has
been had too many times already and I suggest you read

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.3/
http://www106.pair.com/rhp/free-software-ui.html

And another thing. If you stop calling people's work crap you might get
a better response to your comments.

Cheers
Kjartan