Re: [Deskbar] Regressions in new UI
- From: Sebastian Pölsterl <marduk k-d-w org>
- To: Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <mikkel kamstrup gmail com>
- Cc: deskbar-applet-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [Deskbar] Regressions in new UI
- Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:47:39 +0200
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Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen schrieb:
>>> * Hits pane partially obscured on first view
>>>
>> I don't understand. What do you mean exactly?
>
> Ok, I was planning to expand that a bit before hitting "send" - I see
> I missed it :-) What I meant is also visible in your latest screencast
> http://www.k-d-w.org/clipboard/deskbar_newest.ogg. When the results
> appear almost half of the UI is fliied with blank space and the result
> strings are partially obscured.
>
> I think it would make sense to hide that right pane, and perhaps show
> those actions in another way. I'm wondering if it was possbile to use
> the new tooltip api for this. If I'm not mistaken you can have
> tooltips on specific cells in a treeview now. The tooltip could look
> like this:
>
> -------------------------------------
> | |
> | [Copy to clipboard] (ctrl-1) |
> | [View foobar] (ctrl-2) |
> | |
> -------------------------------------
>
> The text in square brackets would be a hoover-button. The keyboard
> shortcuts are just enumerated by Ctrl-N for quick access. This might
> be a lot of work though.
>
I think I just hide the actions treeview and if a match is selected hide
matches treeview and show the actions treeview. That way only one
treeview would be visible at one time and more horizontal space is
available.
>>> * Invalidated a whole slew of 3rd party handlers without warning - do
>>> you realize how many are out there? I strongly suggest creating a
>>> LegacyModuleLoader or something so old handlers work without
>>> modification. And this should be done really soon.
>>>
>> It should open a dialog a startup and warn you about outdated handlers.
>> If you didn't see it I have to check the code again. I really don't see
>> a posibility to support old handlers as well. The new API is just too
>> different from the new one. I now that many people will get mad about
>> this, but supporting two different APIs does no good in the long term.
>
> That really depends on how hard it is to maintain backwards
> compatibility. If it is not really tricky I think it is worth it.
>
I think it is difficult, but I didn't try it, yet.
>>> * Not closing result window after match selection.
>>>
>> You should enable this behavior in preferences.
>
> What I meant to say is that this should probably be the default behavior.
>
It is now.
>>> IDEAS
>>> * History view - how about only displaying either history or the search
>>> results? Just show history when the applet is shown without a search
>>> string (it should have a visible "History" label somewhere to not
>>> confuse people). The mantra should be: "As little in the UI as possible,
>>> but shortest route to funtionality".
>>>
>> hmm, I like the history as it is now. Nevertheless, I won't make sense
>> if I remove the menu at the top as Vincent requested. Currently, I have
>> no idea where to put the history in that case.
>
> The current idea with a combobox seems like a good one. But how do you
> activate it via the keyboard?
>
You can press tab to focus the history and then enter to open the
combobox, but I will add an accelerator/mnemonic to do this in one step.
- --
Greetings,
Sebastian Pölsterl
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