Re: Deeper integration with GNOME

["mathieu jourdan gresille org" <mathieu jourdan gresille org>]

1) I was already aware of that thread and I'm still thinking multiple
schedules could get Déjà Dup closer to it's mission statement:
- both on-site and off-site allowed at the same time
- regular backups are still possible when a storage is not available

Also, considering backups are useless until you have to restore (and
browse through your previous backups), there is no added complexity from
a user perspective. From a developper point-of-view, a fancy way to
browse could be coded once and be used for both history and schedule.
That would make backups more appealing. It would be a pitty to condamn
users to move to cluttered user interface if they wanted multiple schedules.

Anyway, I perfectly understand you don't want to spend time and your
fears on such a change, so I'll continue to dig this way (with GTK3.10+
stuff) on my side and keep you informed if by any chance I succeed.

2,3) Seems fine to me.

4,5) Indeed, the "after" view is odd. Maybe you should get back to the
two-columns layout[0], and move the advices ("you should enable...")
away from the icons. Maybe you even should keep only one advice, and
move it above the columns to emphasize on the most important thing: make
regular backups.

[0]:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Playground/Backups?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=wire-v2-backup.png

On 16/10/2013 07:35, Michael Terry wrote:
> OK, attached is my current take on the Overview page.  This is in trunk
> right now, if you want to play with it yourself.
>
> 1) Your designs assume multiple backup schedules, each with their own
> settings.  I'm not super excited about the idea.  There's a fair bit of
> complexity associated with that, both from a behind-the-scenes POV as
> well as the user experience.  Deja Dup has always aimed at making the
> basic backup use case as simple as possible, targeting the population of
> users that wouldn't normally make a backup.  I feel like once a user is
> thinking about multiple backup schedules, they have graduated to the
> next tier of backup programs.
>
> See https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/324631 where I've long
> resisted the feature request.  This all said, your design for it is
> pretty nice.  If I implemented the feature, your design is a good way to
> do it.
>
> 2) For now, I want to stick with an everything-in-one-window design
> rather than a separate window for preferences.  This is largely to
> accommodate Ubuntu (its older GTK and in-control-center design makes
> relying on a header view switcher hard for this next cycle).  And given
> (1), we can get away with single set of preferences.  Thus, I've put the
> Overview page among the settings.
>
> 3) Notice the On/Off switch in the header bar.  This, we actually *can*
> support in Ubuntu (control-center actually supported custom right-edge
> header widgets since 3.4).  This "master switch" fits with other similar
> settings panels in GNOME and controls whether automatic backups are
> enabled.  The "enable" hyperlink in the schedule text also flips that
> switch, for easier discoverability.
>
> 4) Given (2), the list box on the left takes up a chunk of horizontal
> space in the Overview page.  I felt that the two-column layout was a
> little cramped.  So I tried stacking them vertically.  I think it looks
> nice in initial.png.
>
> 5) Once the user enables automatic backups and has backed up recently,
> you can see how it looks in after.png.  That view looks a little bare. 
> This is where the two-column layout might work better.  I'm not sure
> what to do about it...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -mt