Re: [Banshee-List] Banshee 0.11 ipod problem

[Aaron Bockover <abockover novell com>]

I figured as much. For whatever reason, Gentoo does not properly install
either the HAL FDI file or the HAL method for WriteIpodInfo, so we can't
access the required information on your iPod to detect it properly. This
is a Gentoo bug.

Are you positive that when Banshee configure runs, the configure output
says it will be building with iPod support? There may be another ebuild
bug or something that is not actually causing iPod support to be built
correctly, even if you have the right flags.

Then again, it could very well be a gtkpod issue. If you have everything
backed up, nuke the data partition and reboot your iPod. The iPod will
rebuild the necessary directory structures and files, and Banshee can
start off with it fresh. It's hard to tell the cause.

--Aaron


On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 13:43 -0400, Gregoire Gentil wrote:
> Aaron,
> 
> Thanks for your reply. I'm building Banshee using Gentoo - it's using
> the tarball not svn. I have almost all the latest version as I mentioned
> in earlier emails.
> 
> Here is my hal-device file:
> http://www.gentil.com/hal-device.txt
> 
> There is no occurrence of WriteIpodInfo.
> 
> Yes, I used the use flag ipod in Gentoo to compile Banshee with ipod
> support. Note that the ipod icon appears in Banshee with a correct
> report of the ipod hardware info,
> 
> Gr�ire
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Bockover [mailto:abockover novell com] 
> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:05 PM
> > To: gregoire gentil com
> > Cc: banshee-list gnome org; 'Matt Philmon'
> > Subject: RE: [Banshee-List] Banshee 0.11 ipod problem
> > 
> > 
> > What distro are you running? What is the output of:
> > 
> > hal-device | grep WriteIpodInfo
> > 
> > With your iPod plugged in. Also, when you built Banshee, are you sure
> > that iPod support was actually enabled? It sounds like the USB mass
> > storage support may actually be taking over.
> > 
> > --Aaron
> > 
> > On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 09:12 -0400, Gregoire Gentil wrote:
> > > Interesting: Ipod --list failed because libgtop was not 
> > installed. After
> > > installing libgtop, ipod reports:
> > > 
> > > ipod --list
> > > glibtop: This machine has 1 CPUs, 1 are being monitored.
> > > 
> > > (process:29964): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_ascii_strtoull: 
> > assertion `nptr !=
> > > NULL' failed
> > > Path Info
> > >    Device Path:      /dev/sda2
> > >    Mount Point:      /media/usbdisk
> > >    Control Path:     /media/usbdisk/iPod_Control/
> > >    HAL ID:
> > > /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_part2_size_3948134400
> > > Device Info
> > >    Model Number:     (null)
> > >    Device Model:     Unknown
> > >    iPod Generation:  Unknown
> > >    Adv. Capacity:    (null)
> > >    Is New:           YES
> > >    Writable:         YES
> > >    Serial Number:    (null)
> > >    Firmware Version: (null)
> > >    Manufacturer ID:
> > >    Production Year:  0000
> > >    Production Week:  00
> > >    Production Index: 0
> > > Volume Info
> > >    Volume Size:      3948134400
> > >    Volume Used:      74760192
> > >    Available         3873374208
> > >    UUID:             (null)
> > >    Label
> > > User-Provided Info
> > >    Device Name:      (null)
> > >    User Name:        (null)
> > >    Host Name:        (null)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Note that behavior in Banshee is still the same even after the
> > > installation of libgtop. Ipod is recognized, the icon 
> > appears, size of
> > > content is correctly reported but importing the ipod 
> > continues for ever
> > > without getting anything, Any other idea how to debug?
> > > 
> > > Many thanks by advance,
> > > 
> > > Gr�ire
> > > 
> > > 
> > > PS: My comment was not aggressive. I understand your point 
> > and I agree
> > > about open standard, and it's unfortunate that it's wishful thinking
> > > both for Microsoft and Apple.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Aaron Bockover [mailto:abockover novell com] 
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:41 AM
> > > > To: banshee-list gnome org; gregoire gentil com
> > > > Cc: 'Matt Philmon'
> > > > Subject: Re: [Banshee-List] Banshee 0.11 ipod problem
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 00:49 -0400, Gregoire Gentil wrote:
> > > > > Yes, I read about this:
> > > > > 
> > http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2
> /. But
> > > > in any case, to my mind, it's up to Banshee to adapt itself 
> > > to iPod -
> > > > not sure that Steve Jobs really cares about Banshee. ;-)
> > > 
> > > Wow, you completely did not get my point. Of course we adapt. 
> > > We already
> > > have adapted. It took only a few days from that post. Our 
> > > adaptation was
> > > in Banshee 0.11.0, libipoddevice 0.5.0, and ipod-sharp 0.6.2. My
> point
> > > is simply that it's unfortunate things have to be this way 
> > > instead of, I
> > > don't know, an open standard - wishful thinking.
> > > 
> > > Does "ipod --list" show anything?
> > > 
> > > --Aaron
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > My iPod shows now in its About dialog menu:
> > > > GNUpod 0.98.3
> > > > Version 1.0.1
> > > > Model MA487LL
> > > > Format: Windows
> > > > The iPod has never been reinstalled and it has never plugged into
> a
> > > > Windows system. The disk was originally formatted in FAT 
> > > and I did all
> > > > what is written below.
> > > >  
> > > > Note that the GNUpod format is perhaps the problem. I begin to
> guess
> > > > that Banshee really needs an Apple iTunesDB. If there is no DB or
> > > > written with another standard, it fails. Could my assumption be
> > > > correct?
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > 
> > 
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