Nov 02 19:32:56 <pockeylam> hey Nov 02 19:33:10 <pockeylam> lakhil, are you available to take notes this time? :) Nov 02 19:33:25 <lakhil> sure, i will take Nov 02 19:33:44 <pockeylam> lakhil, great, thanks! Nov 02 19:33:52 <SFD_Fred> lakhil: but you'll have to give them back at some point ;-) Nov 02 19:33:55 <pockeylam> let's start our meeting Nov 02 19:34:21 <lakhil> SFD_Fred, hopefully i will give them back ;-) Nov 02 19:34:23 * yippi (~bc99092 adsl-99-148-70-189 dsl chcgil sbcglobal net) has joined #asia-summit Nov 02 19:34:36 <yippi> hi, sorry i'm 5 minutes late Nov 02 19:34:40 <SFD_Fred> hi yippi Nov 02 19:34:44 <SFD_Fred> we're just starting Nov 02 19:34:46 <pockeylam> yippi, it's fine, we just start Nov 02 19:35:01 <SFD_Fred> lakhil will be taking notes today Nov 02 19:35:06 <yippi> great Nov 02 19:35:08 <SFD_Fred> (that's what u missed so far) Nov 02 19:35:11 <terral1> heya Brian Nov 02 19:35:23 <pockeylam> agenda item 1. Update on last week action items Nov 02 19:35:32 <pockeylam> Allan drafted a simple email to claim access for facebook and identi.ca gnome.asia accounts Nov 02 19:35:38 <pockeylam> i think the email is ok Nov 02 19:35:42 <terral1> +1 Nov 02 19:35:43 <pockeylam> what do other people think? Nov 02 19:36:09 <SFD_Fred> ok too Nov 02 19:36:12 <terral1> I think it is worded well. Nov 02 19:36:23 <SFD_Fred> wers did all the writings... ;-) Nov 02 19:36:33 <pockeylam> terral1, great, so would you please help us to deliver the message to mario and copy the committee list? Nov 02 19:36:34 <wers> B-) Nov 02 19:36:37 <pockeylam> wers, thanks :) Nov 02 19:36:46 <wers> np Nov 02 19:36:55 <terral1> pockeylam: sure Nov 02 19:36:56 * abharath (~abharath 59 92 172 106) has joined #asia-summit Nov 02 19:37:19 <pockeylam> AI: WILL to send the drafted email to mario to claim access for facebook and identi.ca gnome.asia accounts (and copy the committee list) Nov 02 19:37:21 <pockeylam> terral1, thanks! Nov 02 19:37:22 <pockeylam> abharath, hi Nov 02 19:37:28 <pockeylam> abharath, we just started Nov 02 19:37:37 <terral1> pockeylam: I will send it after my next meeting. Nov 02 19:37:46 <pockeylam> Will added a link to the existing front page: http://gnome.asia/press/2010/wrap-up Nov 02 19:37:48 <abharath> pockeylam: hello. Got stuck in traffic for an additional hour :( Nov 02 19:38:00 <pockeylam> abharath, it's ok :) Nov 02 19:38:47 <pockeylam> i sent the survey invitation to the foundation-list Nov 02 19:39:10 <pockeylam> we also invited some foundation members from a irc meeting to join the survey Nov 02 19:39:40 <pockeylam> abharath helped to get novell developers to join the survey as well Nov 02 19:40:09 <pockeylam> fred approached red hat singapore and novell USA Nov 02 19:40:13 <abharath> pockeylam: some others from India today. Let us see what other responses we get Nov 02 19:40:25 <pockeylam> abharath, yeah, thanks! Nov 02 19:40:37 <pockeylam> i approached canonical Nov 02 19:41:09 <pockeylam> so now we got 37 responses :) Nov 02 19:41:38 <pockeylam> in one week, we have 24 responses more, and they are on targets Nov 02 19:42:06 <pockeylam> as said, we can close the survey on 16th Nov Tuesday Nov 02 19:42:13 <pockeylam> so we can continue to approach those potential participants Nov 02 19:42:49 <abharath> sounds good Nov 02 19:42:57 <pockeylam> since we are talking about the survey, i would like to share initial statistic here Nov 02 19:43:11 <pockeylam> Total response : 37 Nov 02 19:43:17 <pockeylam> 32% (12 people) of them involved in GNOME.30 Nov 02 19:43:25 <pockeylam> Half of them from Asia Nov 02 19:43:30 <SFD_Fred> not bad Nov 02 19:43:30 <pockeylam> Others mainly from Europe Nov 02 19:43:42 <pockeylam> 65% (25 people) of them consider to join Nov 02 19:43:45 <SFD_Fred> what's the geographic distribution? Nov 02 19:44:01 <yippi> sounds like the survey is really helpful Nov 02 19:44:07 <yippi> i also think the letter to mario looked good Nov 02 19:44:10 <abharath> what are the other people onto? Nov 02 19:44:35 <pockeylam> 54% from Asia, 27% from Europe, 8% from South america, 5% from NOrth america Nov 02 19:44:44 <abharath> I mean not directly involved or do they not fall under the categories we listed Nov 02 19:44:45 <pockeylam> 3% from australia Nov 02 19:44:59 <SFD_Fred> wow.. some Australians cool Nov 02 19:45:00 <pockeylam> 3% no answer Nov 02 19:45:06 <yippi> did you send invites to LUG mailing lists in the region, or to GNOME locale mailing lists? Nov 02 19:45:06 <abharath> SFD_Fred: :D Nov 02 19:45:24 <SFD_Fred> abharath: well quite a lot of FOSS people there Nov 02 19:45:39 <abharath> SFD_Fred: oh not many I know actually Nov 02 19:46:25 <pockeylam> abharath, we only asked in detail if the involve Nov 02 19:47:01 <pockeylam> yippi, not yet, now we still only target those people who involve or contribute to gnome 3.0 release Nov 02 19:48:18 <abharath> Stormy quitting officially. That's bad news :( Nov 02 19:48:20 <SFD_Fred> yes, i think the plan was to get most contributors attracted/feedback first Nov 02 19:49:00 <pockeylam> 65% (25 people) of them consider to join the GNOME.Asia Summit 2011 Nov 02 19:49:22 <pockeylam> 55% (21 people) needs the gnome foundation to cover their expenses Nov 02 19:49:52 <wers> abharath, woah Nov 02 19:49:54 <pockeylam> abharath, really? Nov 02 19:50:01 <wers> wassup?? Nov 02 19:50:12 <pockeylam> For the date of hackfest: Nov 02 19:50:17 <abharath> ok we'll continue with the meet :) discussions for later :D Nov 02 19:50:23 <pockeylam> abharath, ok Nov 02 19:50:31 <pockeylam> 24% (9 people) votes for during the GNOME 3.0 release Nov 02 19:50:41 <pockeylam> 19% (7 people) votes for after the GNOME 3.0 release Nov 02 19:50:43 * emily (~yc151230 sca-ea-fw-1 Sun COM) has joined #asia-summit Nov 02 19:50:51 <pockeylam> 14% (5 people) votes for before the GNOME 3.0 release Nov 02 19:50:52 <pockeylam> emily, hi Nov 02 19:50:57 <pockeylam> emily, we are talking about the survey now Nov 02 19:50:58 <emily> hi all, sorry for the late Nov 02 19:51:06 <emily> OK, my update Nov 02 19:51:08 <pockeylam> emily, i will send out abstract of survey later by email , so u can catch up Nov 02 19:51:22 <emily> I have send the survey to Oracle Internal desktop mail list Nov 02 19:51:29 <pockeylam> emily, great! Nov 02 19:51:35 <emily> I will push to ask Oracle engineers' feedback Nov 02 19:51:50 <pockeylam> emily, yeah Nov 02 19:51:54 <pockeylam> 16% (6 people) is okay with anytime before, during or after the GNOME 3.0 release Nov 02 19:52:10 <pockeylam> so the votes are quite close to each others Nov 02 19:52:17 <pockeylam> for the dates of the hackfest Nov 02 19:52:43 <pockeylam> but still, seems "during the hackfest" wins so far Nov 02 19:52:49 <SFD_Fred> do we have a way to know what the people involved in Gnome release voted? Nov 02 19:53:03 <pockeylam> SFD_Fred, i don't think so Nov 02 19:53:11 <SFD_Fred> ok.. well Nov 02 19:53:32 <pockeylam> SFD_Fred, the anonymous feature activated Nov 02 19:53:33 <emily> do we know the name for each people who did survey ? The name list ? Nov 02 19:53:50 <pockeylam> emily, no, it's an open survey Nov 02 19:54:01 <pockeylam> emily, we decided to do a public survey Nov 02 19:54:05 <pockeylam> emily, we didn't make any token Nov 02 19:54:07 <abharath> oh, its anonymous? Nov 02 19:54:09 <pockeylam> emily, but i think it's okay Nov 02 19:54:13 <terral1> the responses were. Nov 02 19:54:13 <pockeylam> abharath, yes Nov 02 19:54:35 <pockeylam> terral1, yes, the responses are anonymous Nov 02 19:54:42 <abharath> well having the names would have helped :) I never noticed I didn't enter my name :D Nov 02 19:55:15 <lakhil> :) Nov 02 19:55:24 <pockeylam> abharath, yeah, but there is one question we asked for email address Nov 02 19:55:31 <pockeylam> if they are willing to give a talk in the 1 day conference Nov 02 19:55:41 <pockeylam> however, none of the participants filled their email address so far Nov 02 19:55:47 <abharath> aah that should help :D Nov 02 19:55:57 <abharath> haha bad people ;) Nov 02 19:56:03 <pockeylam> eventhough there are 4 people out of 37 who said they would love to give a talk Nov 02 19:56:12 <emily> Maybe we should make the email address as a must ? Nov 02 19:56:44 <terral1> emily: no guarantee you get valid answer. only way to make sure would be to use non-anonymous survey Nov 02 19:56:54 <lakhil> if we can make them clear that how it will be helpful for us to get their email id Nov 02 19:57:00 <pockeylam> emily, it's okay, since we kept track of all the means of invitation , when we call for participants, we will use the same means again Nov 02 19:57:03 <wers> I hope, my test answers weren't counted Nov 02 19:57:07 <pockeylam> that's why it's good to keep track of how we invite people Nov 02 19:57:20 <pockeylam> so we are sure they are all informed when we call for participants Nov 02 19:57:32 <pockeylam> wers, it will count :) Nov 02 19:57:52 <wers> oh... it's good that I put my email. hehe Nov 02 19:57:57 <pockeylam> wers, it keeps track of all imcomplete and completed answers Nov 02 19:58:09 <pockeylam> wers, did you? wait let me check Nov 02 19:58:14 <abharath> lol Nov 02 19:58:15 <wers> yeah Nov 02 19:58:46 <wers> I had to fill the fields to continue to the next page so I entered test answers Nov 02 19:58:51 <pockeylam> wers, yeah, i missed that fill Nov 02 19:58:55 <wers> they're the ones with "lorem ipsum" Nov 02 19:58:59 <abharath> yeah just cross-checked. He has filled it. gmail wers com is his email id :P Nov 02 19:59:00 <pockeylam> there are three persons who filled their emails indeed :) Nov 02 19:59:11 <pockeylam> but you are not one of them Nov 02 19:59:19 <pockeylam> wers, but you are not one of them, so yours didn't count Nov 02 19:59:23 <wers> abharath, srsly? I don't remember doing that... Nov 02 19:59:58 <pockeylam> LOL Nov 02 20:00:00 <pockeylam> anyway Nov 02 20:00:13 <pockeylam> For the venue of hackfest: Nov 02 20:00:18 <pockeylam> 1) Bangalore, India 10 votes 27.03% Nov 02 20:00:23 <pockeylam> 2) Any location 8 votes 21.62% Nov 02 20:00:27 <pockeylam> 3) Hong Kong, China 7 votes 18.92% Nov 02 20:00:32 <pockeylam> 4) Mysore, India 6 votes 16.22% Nov 02 20:00:36 <pockeylam> 5)Jakarta, Indonesia 5 votes 13.51% Nov 02 20:00:41 <pockeylam> 6)Bali, Indonesia 5 votes 13.51% Nov 02 20:00:53 <pockeylam> bangalore wins so far :) Nov 02 20:00:58 <lakhil> :P Nov 02 20:01:12 <pockeylam> abharath, lakhil must be happy ;) Nov 02 20:01:18 <pockeylam> Type of venue: Nov 02 20:01:23 <abharath> :D Nov 02 20:01:24 <pockeylam> 1) Universities 17votes 45.95% Nov 02 20:01:27 <pockeylam> 2) Resorts 8votes 21.62% Nov 02 20:01:30 <lakhil> pockeylam will be the happiest :) Nov 02 20:01:36 <pockeylam> 3) Youth hostel 2votes 5.41% Nov 02 20:01:37 <abharath> whoa 46% ;) Nov 02 20:01:43 <pockeylam> lakhil, LOL as always Nov 02 20:01:54 <SFD_Fred> yes, i think overall it's ok. Nov 02 20:01:55 <SFD_Fred> we decided to have it anonymous and that's what we have Nov 02 20:01:55 <SFD_Fred> we shouldn t doubt... we organized previous summit without any survey and it worked out pretty well Nov 02 20:01:55 <SFD_Fred> this one is getting a lot more publicity already Nov 02 20:02:00 <pockeylam> 4) office 4 votes 10.81% Nov 02 20:02:08 <pockeylam> any venue 5 votes 13.51% Nov 02 20:02:30 <pockeylam> SFD_Fred, yeah, i agreed Nov 02 20:02:46 <pockeylam> all respondents are positive about the set up of a technical help desk Nov 02 20:03:01 <pockeylam> that's about it Nov 02 20:03:07 <emily> Since we have hacfest + one day conference, maybe we can have Resorts + univeristy option? Nov 02 20:03:13 <pockeylam> the most important two information would be the dates and venue Nov 02 20:03:48 <pockeylam> bangalore got the most votes Nov 02 20:04:01 <pockeylam> for dates: during the gnome 3.0 release got the most votes Nov 02 20:04:11 <SFD_Fred> but didn't the Bangalore team staff up the survey? ;-) Nov 02 20:04:25 <pockeylam> emily, we can have the one day conference in an university Nov 02 20:04:49 <emily> hehe Nov 02 20:04:52 <pockeylam> emily, if we host it in bangalore, we will host it in novell india office for 1 , 2 days Nov 02 20:05:17 <emily> cool, Novell office sounds good for hackfest Nov 02 20:05:18 <lakhil> pockeylam, i don't think conference can be held in office Nov 02 20:05:32 <emily> Conference can not, but hackfest can Nov 02 20:05:32 <pockeylam> lakhil, not conference, hackfest in office :) Nov 02 20:05:42 <lakhil> pockeylam, sure :) Nov 02 20:05:56 <pockeylam> lakhil, how many days can be hosted in novell india? Nov 02 20:06:16 <pockeylam> lakhil, if we have 50- 70 people join the hackfest Nov 02 20:06:20 <lakhil> pockeylam, that's the last option, we will be looking for Nov 02 20:06:22 * sakana (~max 111 82 46 156) has joined #asia-summit Nov 02 20:06:34 <sakana> sorry for the late ^^ Nov 02 20:06:39 <pockeylam> sakana, hi Nov 02 20:06:54 <pockeylam> sakana, we are talking about location , venues dates of the coming gnome.asia summit Nov 02 20:06:58 <SFD_Fred> i guess people prefer University.. shouldn't that be what we offer them? Nov 02 20:07:03 <lakhil> pockeylam, about days, we will have to ask again Nov 02 20:07:13 <lakhil> as we just discussed the possibilities last time Nov 02 20:07:27 <pockeylam> lakhil, if we want to host it in university, any status? Nov 02 20:07:58 <lakhil> pockeylam, mostly we will get yes for them but officially we haven't got any feedback Nov 02 20:08:17 <pockeylam> lakhil, yeah Nov 02 20:08:35 <pockeylam> lakhil, ideally, we can have 1 day in novell office, and 4 days in university Nov 02 20:08:57 <lakhil> let us ping the university management again Nov 02 20:09:02 <pockeylam> lakhil, thanks :) Nov 02 20:09:23 <pockeylam> AI: lakhil to ping the university management to check for the venues Nov 02 20:10:03 <pockeylam> for the dates, if we want to host it during the gnome 3.0 release... Nov 02 20:10:28 <pockeylam> it's gonna to be tricky .. since we are not sure when is the exact dates of release... Nov 02 20:10:40 <pockeylam> we may only know it last minutes Nov 02 20:10:48 <wers> yeah... Nov 02 20:10:53 <pockeylam> yippi, any suggestion? Nov 02 20:10:53 <lakhil> pockeylam, schedule is out for gnome 3.0 Nov 02 20:11:07 <pockeylam> lakhil, it's a firmed schedule :) Nov 02 20:11:11 <pockeylam> ? Nov 02 20:11:13 <SFD_Fred> lakhil: confirmed one that will not change at all? Nov 02 20:11:16 <lakhil> http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNinetyone Nov 02 20:11:25 <abharath> http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNinetyone Nov 02 20:11:28 <terral1> there's no way to be 1000% sure, but its fairly solid at this point. Nov 02 20:11:29 <abharath> :D Nov 02 20:11:33 <lakhil> SFD_Fred, it's confirmed on desktop-devel list Nov 02 20:12:00 <pockeylam> so according to the schedule, it will be end of April Nov 02 20:12:01 <terral1> I mean, we could hit a showstopper bug that would hold the release, but there's no way to plan around that. Nov 02 20:12:15 <wers> yep Nov 02 20:12:30 <wers> I think last week fo April is safe Nov 02 20:12:49 <wers> start of May if we want to be super sure Nov 02 20:12:52 <yippi> i think during the release sounds best, is that what you are askign pockeylam? Nov 02 20:13:00 <SFD_Fred> thing is May 1st is holiday in a lot of places as well Nov 02 20:13:06 <emily> PockeyLam: May be we might ask Vincnt for his opinion about the date Nov 02 20:13:20 <pockeylam> yippi, thanks! how about the dates, during the release, will that means last week of April? Nov 02 20:13:21 <wers> SFD_Fred, yep! it's cool to be out on a holiday :D Nov 02 20:13:29 <wers> maybe last week of april Nov 02 20:13:40 <wers> that overlaps with May 1 Nov 02 20:13:42 <SFD_Fred> wers: some people have family to take care of.. not sure. It's good and bad let's say Nov 02 20:14:07 <wers> SFD_Fred, still, it's easier to leave on a holiday Nov 02 20:14:24 <SFD_Fred> wers: if you say so... you're not married that's why! ;-) Nov 02 20:14:33 <wers> oh May 1 is a sunday... doesn't matter.. Nov 02 20:14:35 <yippi> i think the last week of april, or perhaps the last 4-5 days of april and the first 1-2 days of May Nov 02 20:15:11 <yippi> since the GNOME 3 release is scheduled for April 27th. Nov 02 20:15:12 <pockeylam> yippi, got it Nov 02 20:15:32 <abharath> how about flight expenses? would they vary much in that season? compared to march that we initially estimated? Nov 02 20:15:34 <SFD_Fred> if it's a Sunday then... sure, not a big difference Nov 02 20:15:56 <SFD_Fred> abharath: that's probably something we need to check again Nov 02 20:16:17 <abharath> SFD_Fred: yeah anyways not a big item for discussion :) Nov 02 20:16:39 <yippi> Why isn't Oracle's logo in the sponsors on www.gnome.asia? Nov 02 20:16:43 <yippi> can this be fixed? Nov 02 20:16:47 <yippi> http://www.gnome.asia/ Nov 02 20:17:17 <pockeylam> yippi, sure Nov 02 20:17:22 <pockeylam> it's strange... Nov 02 20:17:33 <SFD_Fred> someone stole it? Nov 02 20:17:38 <terral1> yippi: You read my email. ;) Nov 02 20:17:42 <yippi> :) Nov 02 20:18:01 <yippi> Sun/Oracle has always been such a supporter of GNOME.Asia...it's a shame to do something that might upset them. :) Nov 02 20:18:07 <wers> SFD_Fred, :/ Nov 02 20:18:11 <pockeylam> yippi, sorry... Nov 02 20:18:22 <pockeylam> no idea how come it got suddenly disappeared... fixing it right now Nov 02 20:18:28 <SFD_Fred> yippi: i agree. we should pay more attention to those kind of things Nov 02 20:18:42 <SFD_Fred> i have to admit I never go to our website Nov 02 20:18:47 <emily> Be sure we have the same sponsors list as : http://coscup.org/2010/zh-tw Nov 02 20:18:57 <yippi> just saying... Nov 02 20:19:21 <terral1> yippi: it is linked on 2010.gnome.asia Nov 02 20:19:43 <SFD_Fred> yippi: you're right. this is something i pay a lot of attention elsewhere... i feel bad not to apply the same standards for gnome.asia Nov 02 20:19:51 <terral1> yippi: which was the predominant landing page and linked page, we just need to get that added to the standard sponsor list. It is an easy addition. Nov 02 20:19:57 <wers> looks like coscup isn't planning to upload slides and vids anymore Nov 02 20:20:03 <yippi> if you want to continue getting sponsors to donate money, you gotta treat them right Nov 02 20:20:26 <yippi> forgetting logos is bad mojo Nov 02 20:21:26 * emily has quit (Remote closed the connection) Nov 02 20:21:46 <pockeylam> done, oracle is back Nov 02 20:21:48 <terral1> wers: where did you see that? Nov 02 20:21:49 <yippi> thanks Nov 02 20:21:59 <wers> terral1, which one? Nov 02 20:22:08 <yippi> mmm, oracle logo Nov 02 20:22:12 <terral1> wers: never mind... i'll ask after meeting. Nov 02 20:22:16 * emily (~yc151230 sca-ea-fw-1 Sun COM) has joined #asia-summit Nov 02 20:22:20 <yippi> looks like a donut Nov 02 20:22:24 <yippi> hungry Nov 02 20:22:29 <pockeylam> yippi, sure, we will pay more attention Nov 02 20:22:29 <abharath> lol Nov 02 20:22:42 <terral1> yippi: lol Nov 02 20:22:56 <pockeylam> yippi, hehe, u have a better logo to give us? :) Nov 02 20:23:05 <yippi> that's the correct logo Nov 02 20:23:09 <terral1> pockeylam: you and I are on the hook for missing that one. (the logo on home page.) We did it on 7/14 for the coscup page. Nov 02 20:23:11 <pockeylam> yippi, great! Nov 02 20:23:28 <pockeylam> terral1, i dont' remember we did it together... Nov 02 20:23:37 <pockeylam> terral1, but it's okay, it's here now, we need to pay more attention Nov 02 20:24:11 <pockeylam> terral1, can you help to move oracle one logo higher... Nov 02 20:24:22 <emily> haha pockeylam Nov 02 20:24:24 <pockeylam> terral1, http://coscup.org/2010/zh-tw , keep the same position Nov 02 20:24:44 <pockeylam> emily, terral1, oh no, we missed another one also Nov 02 20:24:54 <pockeylam> the last logo of gold level... we don't have it Nov 02 20:25:09 <terral1> pockeylam: They didn't send the update on that one. We will have to add it. *sigh* Nov 02 20:25:21 <pockeylam> AI: terral1 to check the logos of sponsors of gnome.asia and add them Nov 02 20:25:27 <pockeylam> terral1, :) Nov 02 20:25:29 <terral1> pockeylam: i'll pull that in a bit. Nov 02 20:25:29 <pockeylam> terral1, is it okay? :) Nov 02 20:25:34 <pockeylam> terral1, thanks! Nov 02 20:25:35 <terral1> pockeylam: of course. Nov 02 20:25:45 <yippi> the oracle logo doesn't need to be higher...it just needs to not be forgotten Nov 02 20:26:16 <pockeylam> yippi, we agreed with coscup, we have positions for each sponsors Nov 02 20:26:22 <yippi> that's up to you. Nov 02 20:26:24 <pockeylam> yippi, who paid first, who will be placed first :) Nov 02 20:26:34 <abharath> pockeylam: ;) Nov 02 20:27:01 <terral1> Guys, I will have to leave soon, if there are any things for me, perhaps we could change order? Nov 02 20:29:07 <pockeylam> wers, do u want to update on the research of user experience ? Nov 02 20:29:07 <abharath> pay us more, and you'll go so high that you'll be out of the page :D Nov 02 20:29:07 <pockeylam> terral1, what order? Nov 02 20:29:07 <wers> pockeylam, order of topics Nov 02 20:29:07 <pockeylam> abharath, LOL Nov 02 20:29:07 <pockeylam> oic Nov 02 20:29:07 <pockeylam> terral1, sure! Nov 02 20:29:07 <abharath> terral1: maybe those 3 from Bronze also missing then? Nov 02 20:29:07 <terral1> abharath: when I pull the list it will get all of them at once. Nov 02 20:29:07 <abharath> or are they specific to coscup? Nov 02 20:29:07 <pockeylam> terral1, please give an update on the proposal of gnome.asia website Nov 02 20:29:07 <abharath> terral1: aah sure Nov 02 20:29:07 <pockeylam> terral1, we saw your email about the pdf Nov 02 20:30:03 <pockeylam> terral1, are you here? Nov 02 20:30:08 <terral1> So basically late last week I sent out an email to some of the designers that I have contract work done with, asking for design concepts for the website update. Just to see what they would come up with. If we like any of the designs that get submitted, I will have them build out some more interior pages. Nov 02 20:30:12 <terral1> yes. Nov 02 20:30:16 <terral1> ;) Nov 02 20:30:41 <pockeylam> terral1, there is only one design? Nov 02 20:30:43 <pockeylam> terral1, :) Nov 02 20:30:47 <terral1> so far, yes. Nov 02 20:30:53 <pockeylam> will there be more? Nov 02 20:30:55 <terral1> but its only been a few days. Nov 02 20:30:57 <terral1> should be. Nov 02 20:31:00 <pockeylam> or we have to comment on this one first? Nov 02 20:31:09 <terral1> we can comment on whatever Nov 02 20:31:15 <emily> ? carry on ? Nov 02 20:31:16 <terral1> I expect 3 to 5 submissions Nov 02 20:31:23 <pockeylam> terral1, great Nov 02 20:31:41 <pockeylam> so anybody who would love to comment? Nov 02 20:31:54 <terral1> this can be done independently from the content updates to the site Nov 02 20:32:01 <pockeylam> for me, i prefer the pages can be a bit more colorful Nov 02 20:32:09 <pockeylam> more dynamic Nov 02 20:32:15 <terral1> I also have a contractor adding the last of the features you requested pockey Nov 02 20:32:42 <terral1> pockeylam: I was hoping we would get updated pictures from coscup, which is why wers comment earlier was disturbing Nov 02 20:32:51 <terral1> we don't really have a lot of raw material to work with. Nov 02 20:33:19 <terral1> please send comments to email list, so that I can track them there and combine them for feedback to the designers Nov 02 20:33:21 <wers> Well, it says "The event was successfully ended. Slides and videos of the speeches will be online soon. Keep updated!" on http://coscup.org/2010/en Nov 02 20:33:28 <wers> it's been like that for months Nov 02 20:33:40 <pockeylam> terral1, as said, please go to flickr.com to search for gnome.asia and get those under creative commons Nov 02 20:33:53 <terral1> I am also on the coscup dropbox folder, they didn't really add much to that. Nov 02 20:34:06 <terral1> pockeylam: it would be nice to have the full resolution pictures. Nov 02 20:34:17 <pockeylam> terral1, depends on the license, we just need to give credits back to links of the photos maybe Nov 02 20:34:24 <pockeylam> terral1, it's website... Nov 02 20:34:31 <wers> emily, sent me some... I just don't know about the licensing.. lemme dig that Nov 02 20:34:34 <pockeylam> terral1, not print out... no need such high resolution Nov 02 20:34:55 <pockeylam> wers, hehe, most emily's pictures are me who took.... i m a bad photographer Nov 02 20:35:04 <terral1> pockeylam: if we have full resolution it gives designer a lot more flexibility when you start to crop the photos Nov 02 20:35:05 <pockeylam> wers, that's why i asked terral1 to go online to get some Nov 02 20:35:38 <wers> these are all I got http://www.flickr.com/photos/huanglifu/sets/72157624621876493/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/huanglifu/sets/72157624746857632/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/huanglifu/sets/72157624747300118/ Nov 02 20:35:39 <pockeylam> terral1, some pictures are big in flickr, can be like 3 mb Nov 02 20:36:51 <wers> now, I'm reminiscing. GNOME.Asia 2010 was a nice event. nice to meet you there :D Nov 02 20:36:58 <pockeylam> wers, :) Nov 02 20:37:01 <pockeylam> wers, same here Nov 02 20:37:08 <wers> :D Nov 02 20:37:12 <terral1> heh Nov 02 20:37:13 <SFD_Fred> haha Nov 02 20:37:19 <pockeylam> terral1, i still think flickr is quite good in getting nice pictures Nov 02 20:37:26 <terral1> wers: email me those links please: will lashell net Nov 02 20:37:35 <wers> terral1, consider it done Nov 02 20:38:09 <pockeylam> as said, i think our webpages can be more colorful :) Nov 02 20:38:31 <pockeylam> i think to add one more color on top of green is a good idea Nov 02 20:38:36 <pockeylam> but blue may not match :) Nov 02 20:38:37 <abharath> pockeylam: don't make them too colorful :D Nov 02 20:38:44 <pockeylam> the blue and the green doesnt match Nov 02 20:39:11 <pockeylam> abharath, haha, never too much Nov 02 20:39:13 <abharath> oh women :D Nov 02 20:39:14 <terral1> heh Nov 02 20:39:35 <terral1> it's always amusing to see the difference between eastern and western websites. Nov 02 20:39:37 <terral1> ;) Nov 02 20:39:45 <abharath> terral1: make it orange and red :D hehe just kidding Nov 02 20:39:48 <pockeylam> how about replace the blue with orange Nov 02 20:39:54 <emily> One main theme as Green, and some other color in small place like yellow ? how about this ? Nov 02 20:39:55 <terral1> pockeylam: how goes the new content? Nov 02 20:40:02 <pockeylam> come on, blue and green don't match :) Nov 02 20:40:03 <wers> would the page shown in the pdf just be the press release or will that be the look and feel of the whole gnome.asia portal? Nov 02 20:40:18 <terral1> pockeylam: green and orange? ........ Nov 02 20:40:20 <wers> it's ok for the press release, but it feels a little too posterized to be the portal's theme Nov 02 20:40:26 <SFD_Fred> colors should be match with a complimentary one.. there are some basic design guidelines to respect Nov 02 20:40:30 <terral1> wers: still early in phase Nov 02 20:40:35 <abharath> SFD_Fred: +1 Nov 02 20:40:39 <wers> the poster effect works for the press release Nov 02 20:41:01 <SFD_Fred> besides all the blue was at the bottom.. which we all know nobody ever go there as they don't know browsers have scrollbars Nov 02 20:41:03 <abharath> No gaudy colors please :) green looks nice on the eyes :) Nov 02 20:41:14 <abharath> SFD_Fred: lol Nov 02 20:41:15 <terral1> ha ha ha Nov 02 20:41:23 <terral1> All good comments Nov 02 20:41:29 <abharath> terral1: :D Nov 02 20:41:30 <terral1> but send to the list.. so I can collate them. Nov 02 20:42:00 <wers> ok. I *might* make a wireframe Nov 02 20:42:12 <terral1> wers: go for it. Nov 02 20:42:27 <terral1> wers: if you have a wireframe I can get that built out as well. Nov 02 20:42:30 <terral1> at any rate. Nov 02 20:42:34 <terral1> I have to head out. Nov 02 20:42:38 <pockeylam> lakhil, please help to collect the comments and send to the list ? :) Nov 02 20:42:41 <SFD_Fred> which i why we should put sponsors logo either on the top or on the side - and not at the bottom Nov 02 20:42:41 <SFD_Fred> i have a link somewhere about colors if someone is interested... Nov 02 20:42:41 <SFD_Fred> it's in flash though... Nov 02 20:42:43 <wers> ok. tc terral1 Nov 02 20:42:44 <SFD_Fred> (interested as in 'interested to learn how to pick colors') Nov 02 20:42:55 <terral1> SFD_Fred: I don't think that will be necessary. Nov 02 20:42:58 <lakhil> pockeylam, will send by tomorrow Nov 02 20:43:05 <pockeylam> SFD_Fred, yes, please Nov 02 20:54:02 <pockeylam> lakhil, thanks! Nov 02 20:54:03 <SFD_Fred> i also felt the (only) proposal was not very graphical. I would add more photos and maybe some icons Nov 02 20:54:03 <pockeylam> SFD_Fred, i would be interested to learn :) Nov 02 20:54:03 <SFD_Fred> terral1: it wasn't necessary for you ;-) just a comment about colors Nov 02 20:54:03 <pockeylam> so, that's it, we all commented Nov 02 20:54:04 <pockeylam> terral1, it's great we work on the website now ;) to get prepared for our coming summit Nov 02 20:54:09 <terral1> indeed. Nov 02 20:54:11 <terral1> seeya guys. Nov 02 20:54:13 terral1 left the room (quit: Leaving.). Nov 02 20:54:17 <abharath> just to assure you nothing much happened :D Nov 02 20:46:47 <sakana> ^^ Nov 02 20:46:58 <pockeylam> so our last agenda item: User experience feedbacks on GNOME Desktop Nov 02 20:47:14 <pockeylam> wers, we saw your email exchanges with the usability team Nov 02 20:47:34 <wers> pockeylam, yep. we'll have to settle this Nov 02 20:47:43 <pockeylam> wers, what's your suggestion? Nov 02 20:47:46 <wers> may I know your feedback? Nov 02 20:48:08 <wers> I still have to reply to Kirk's last email. he has a lot of points that we have to consider. hehe Nov 02 20:48:24 <wers> I think, the Usability team has to discuss this further Nov 02 20:48:34 <wers> talking to the Marketing Team could also be beneficial Nov 02 20:48:38 <wers> your thoughts? Nov 02 20:48:46 <SFD_Fred> you guys talk a lot... Nov 02 20:48:47 <SFD_Fred> :D Nov 02 20:48:49 <pockeylam> wers, hehe all the emails are very theoretical Nov 02 20:49:00 <pockeylam> wers, really donno what to comment hahaha Nov 02 20:49:05 <wers> hehe Nov 02 20:49:23 <wers> we'll probably discuss it tomorrow at the GNOME Design Office Hour Nov 02 20:49:31 <wers> I hope I can make it. I'm usually absent. hehe Nov 02 20:49:38 <pockeylam> wers, when is the meeting? Nov 02 20:49:54 <abharath> I see pockeylam running towards SFD_Fred with a big spear ;) Nov 02 20:49:55 <pockeylam> wers, i would like to join too Nov 02 20:50:01 <wers> that's tomorrow 11pm at GMT+8 Nov 02 20:50:04 <wers> wait let me check Nov 02 20:50:04 <abharath> ouch that is gonna hurt bud :D Nov 02 20:50:39 <pockeylam> abharath, why would i do such a thing? ;) Nov 02 20:50:58 <abharath> pockeylam: well just for fun? :D Nov 02 20:51:02 <pockeylam> wers, what channel? Nov 02 20:51:09 <pockeylam> abharath, LOL Nov 02 20:51:11 <wers> #gnome-design Nov 02 20:51:16 <pockeylam> abharath, you becareful Nov 02 20:51:24 <pockeylam> abharath, i run towards you instead Nov 02 20:51:26 <emily> Tomorrow 10pm has Foundation IRC meeting Nov 02 20:51:37 <abharath> emily: aah thanks for reminding Nov 02 20:51:45 <abharath> 10pm timezone please :) Nov 02 20:52:44 <wers> wait. I'm asking on #gnome-design Nov 02 20:52:48 <SFD_Fred> 10pm must be GMT+8 Nov 02 20:53:25 <emily> sorry, guys, I need to go home now Nov 02 20:53:34 <emily> My husband call me twice to go home ... Nov 02 20:53:37 <pockeylam> abharath, should be 10am EST Nov 02 20:53:42 <pockeylam> emily, sure! please go Nov 02 20:53:53 <pockeylam> emily, the meeting is almost over Nov 02 20:54:01 <emily> I will read minute and feel free to give me AI Nov 02 20:54:09 <wers> ok Nov 02 20:54:09 <pockeylam> emily, sure Nov 02 20:54:14 <pockeylam> emily, bye Nov 02 20:54:20 <wers> no answer yet. probably 11pm gmt_8 Nov 02 20:54:44 <SFD_Fred> last week was 10pm gmt+8 Nov 02 20:54:45 <wers> they're busy talking about UI stuff Nov 02 20:54:54 <emily> bye bye Nov 02 20:54:56 <SFD_Fred> did the us switch time? Nov 02 20:54:56 * emily (~yc151230 sca-ea-fw-1 Sun COM) has left #asia-summit Nov 02 20:55:07 <wers> I think it's daylight saving already Nov 02 20:55:09 <pockeylam> wers, it's okay Nov 02 20:55:13 <pockeylam> wers, let me know tomorrow then Nov 02 20:55:14 <wers> that was trending on Google Nov 02 20:55:16 <SFD_Fred> wers: ah.. you're talking about the other meeting Nov 02 20:55:17 <pockeylam> wers, i online the whole day Nov 02 20:55:26 <wers> cool Nov 02 20:55:27 <SFD_Fred> wers: France did last weekend Nov 02 20:55:28 <pockeylam> SFD_Fred, wers talks about the design meeting Nov 02 20:55:34 <abharath> well don't remind me about daylight :( missed a GNOME Meeting by half an hour because of it :( Nov 02 20:55:34 <wers> hehe Nov 02 20:55:58 <wers> I'll just shoot an email to the thread Nov 02 20:55:59 <SFD_Fred> abharath: i have a friend who missed the first conference day because of jet lag/time difference Nov 02 20:56:02 <abharath> IST is best for me. Rock stable :D nothing can change it :D Nov 02 20:56:10 <SFD_Fred> abharath: he was even supposed to give a talk on that day... ouch! Nov 02 20:56:16 <abharath> ouch Nov 02 20:56:37 <SFD_Fred> abharath: showed up the next day thinking it was the 1st day... Nov 02 20:56:45 <SFD_Fred> felt so embarrassed Nov 02 20:57:30 <pockeylam> wers, i will join the meeting with you tomorrow so i can comment later to give my thoughts :) Nov 02 20:57:43 <pockeylam> so that's it for today Nov 02 20:57:46 <SFD_Fred> wers: so you guys, what s the plan for our gnome.asia work ? Nov 02 20:57:47 <pockeylam> thanks everybody !
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