Re: [Fwd: COSCUP team's proposal for a joint conference]
- From: Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
- To: asia-summit-list <asia-summit-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [Fwd: COSCUP team's proposal for a joint conference]
- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:14:38 +0800
Dear all,
Heard replies from Stormy, Fred and Emily, seems the proposal is not
bad :)
How about we start a weekly meeting to discuss about our next steps.
Time suggested by Emily and myself is Tuesday night (i.e. tomorrow April
13, 2010 : 1400 UTC )
Agenda would be:
1) comments on proposal
2) talk about the website, so Will please join us, if the time is not
okay for you, please let us know.
3) sponsorships brainstorming
Everybody please reply here if you can join or not.
Thanks,
Pockey
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 22:51 +0800, Pockey Lam wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Please find attached the proposal from COSCUP. Let's have a look and
> free feel to comment.
>
> Thanks,
> Pockey
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: pingooo <ping nsr yeh gmail com>
> To: Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
> Cc: Emily Chen <emilychen522 gmail com>, Frederic Muller
> <fred beijinglug org>, Jouston Huang <jouston gmail com>, Rex Tsai
> <rex cc tsai gmail com>, lman <lman ugadigital com>, KC Chen
> <kc free gmail com>, Ernest Chiang <dwchiang gmail com>
> Subject: COSCUP team's proposal for a joint conference
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:10:23 -0700
>
> Hi Pockey,
>
>
> Please find in the attachment the proposal from COSCUP team to the
> respected Gnome.Asia Summit Committee for a joint conference of GAS 2010
> and COSCUP 2010.
>
>
> Please feel free to ask any questions that you may have on the proposal.
>
>
> Let me introduce Ernest Chiang here. He is the designated contact point
> of the COSCUP team for you. We'll work together until the Gnome.Asia
> Summit Committee comes to a decision. Should you decide to accept our
> proposal, Ernest will take over the communications.
>
>
> cheers,
> Ping
>
> 2010/3/29 pingooo <ping nsr yeh gmail com>
> Hi Pockey,
>
>
> Due to my trip to the U.S. and schedule conflicts, the proposal
> hasn't been finished until now. It is up for the final round of
> internal review by marketing group and also English
> proofreading. I'm sorry that I'll have to delay it for 2 to 3
> days. I hope you don't mind. :p
>
>
> Thanks,
> pingooo
>
> 2010/3/10 Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
>
>
> Dear Pingooo,
>
> We are so glad to hear that and I think you already have
> enough
> knowledge :) to prepare the proposal. Of course if you
> have any more
> question please feel free to ask.
>
> Cheers,
> Pockey
>
>
> On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 00:56 +0800, pingooo wrote:
> > Hi Pockey,
> >
> >
> > As title, the COSCUP team have reached a conclusion
> that we'll file a
> > proposal to Gnome.Asia Summit Committee on having GAS
> and COSCUP as
> > joint conferences on 8/14 - 8/15 this year. We'll send
> you our
> > proposal by March 29, hopefully earlier.
> >
> >
> > If you have any suggestions on the proposal writing or
> anything,
> > please let me know.
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to a pleasant and fruitful
> collaboration with all of
> > you!
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > pingooo
> >
> >
> > p.s. This mail is CCed to the whole COSCUP team.
> >
> > 2010/3/8 Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
> > Dear Pingooo,
> >
> > Sure! we will wait for your feedback and look
> forward to work
> > with you
> > guys :)
> >
> > Pockey
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 02:06 +0800, pingooo
> wrote:
> > > Hi Pockey,
> > >
> > >
> > > Time flies. I know the time I promised you
> has come and
> > gone, but I'm
> > > sorry that we haven't reached a final
> conclusion yet. I'll
> > get back to
> > > you in a few days.
> > >
> > >
> > > pingooo
> > >
> > > 2010/2/25 Pockey Lam <pockey beijinglug org>
> > > Dear pingooo!
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot and we wait for your
> feedback then :)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Pockey
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 17:10 +0800,
> pingooo wrote:
> > > > Hi Pockey,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's cool.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rex and I have summarized what we
> have discussed
> > and agreed
> > > upon, and
> > > > sent it to the whole COSCUP team
> for reality
> > checks on
> > > execution. This
> > > > is like the pre-launch checks in a
> NASA control
> > room. Every
> > > station
> > > > has to report back "go" for the
> launch to happen.
> > :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll let you know the outcome by
> the end of next
> > week.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > > pingooo
> > > >
> > > > 2010/2/24 Pockey Lam
> <pockey beijinglug org>
> > > > Hi Pingooo,
> > > >
> > > > Got you! In this case, we
> would rather let
> > the local
> > > organizer
> > > > (you)
> > > > propose and be suggested
> in the
> > proposal :) as long
> > > as all the
> > > > rooms
> > > > would be "rather" full ;)
> I guess we will
> > have no
> > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > And I don't think we mind
> to be noticed
> > last min for
> > > which
> > > > room we will
> > > > be as well... as long as
> in the venues it
> > is well
> > > written so
> > > > audiences
> > > > are easy to find out where
> to go.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Pockey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2010-02-24 at
> 22:14 +0800, pingooo
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Pockey,
> > > > >
> > > > > 2010/2/24 Pockey Lam
> > <pockey beijinglug org>
> > > > > Dear Pingooo and
> other COSCUP
> > core
> > > members,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very
> much for your
> > > understanding!
> > > > >
> > > > > I totally agreed
> that we should
> > agree on
> > > the
> > > > principles in
> > > > > advance :)
> > > > > and if you are
> comfortable with
> > our offer,
> > > sure
> > > > please go
> > > > > ahead!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cool that we agree on
> this principle!
> > :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For "By the way,
> the venue we're
> > looking
> > > into has
> > > > one big room
> > > > > (~500
> > > > > seats) and 3
> smaller rooms (100+
> > seats
> > > each). About
> > > > the 3
> > > > > plenary talks
> > > > > of Gnome.Asia
> Summit, do you
> > need them to
> > > be shown
> > > > to all 4
> > > > > rooms, or
> > > > > just the 2 rooms
> used for
> > Gnome.Asia
> > > Summit?"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Usually
> keynotes will only be
> > presented
> > > in the
> > > > "one big
> > > > > room" while no
> > > > > other talks
> should be hosted in
> > other
> > > smaller rooms
> > > > at the
> > > > > same time. In
> > > > > this case, we
> wish the keynotes
> > (3 plenary
> > > talks)
> > > > should be in
> > > > > the big
> > > > > room, please let
> me know if I am
> > wrong ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I should've mentioned
> that the venue has
> > the
> > > capability of
> > > > > broadcasting the big
> room event to other
> > rooms, so
> > > we don't
> > > > have to
> > > > > pack 600 - 700 people in
> a 500 seat
> > room.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think this is a
> question on the
> > definition of
> > > "plenary" in
> > > > the
> > > > > 4-track joint
> conference. COSCUP has
> > plenary talks
> > > for a few
> > > > sponsors
> > > > > at the highest level. To
> disambiguate
> > things,
> > > let's call it
> > > > "super
> > > > > plenary" when there is
> no programs in 3
> > other
> > > rooms. An
> > > > "ordinary
> > > > > plenary" would only
> vacate the program
> > of the
> > > other room in
> > > > the same
> > > > > conference - so
> Gnome.Asia Summit can
> > have
> > > programs while a
> > > > COSCUP
> > > > > plenary is going on, and
> vice versa.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think "super plenary"
> is very
> > prestigious for
> > > obvious
> > > > reasons. It
> > > > > has impact on the
> program of both
> > conferences -
> > > besides
> > > > taking time
> > > > > away from technical
> talks, both
> > conferences have
> > > to
> > > > absolutely sync on
> > > > > time. I'm not sure how
> to handle it yet.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Since the room sizes are
> drastically
> > different, we
> > > intend to
> > > > ask
> > > > > audiences to pick the
> track they want to
> > attend
> > > during
> > > > registration,
> > > > > and award the big room
> to the track with
> > the most
> > > picks. In
> > > > other
> > > > > words, we won't know
> which rooms will be
> > used for
> > > Gnome.Asia
> > > > Summit
> > > > > tracks until the
> registration is closed.
> > Is that
> > > okay?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > pingooo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Pockey
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed,
> 2010-02-24 at 20:58
> > +0800, pingooo
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > 2010/2/24
> pingooo
> > > <ping nsr yeh gmail com>
> > > > > > +CC
> COSCUP core team
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> Pockey,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To
> accelerate the
> > discussion,
> > > I'm CCing
> > > > the core
> > > > > team of
> > > > > > COSCUP
> here. My hope
> > is to get
> > > all
> > > > potential
> > > > > showstoppers
> > > > > >
> elaborated and
> > mutually
> > > agreeable
> > > > solutions found
> > > > > before
> > > > > >
> bringing this topic to
> > the whole
> > > COSCUP
> > > > team. At
> > > > > that stage,
> > > > > > we'll
> file a proposal
> > if all
> > > leaders of
> > > > various
> > > > > tasks are
> > > > > >
> comfortable with
> > executing the
> > > proposal. I
> > > > hope you
> > > > > can
> > > > > >
> understand the reason
> > why we
> > > have to do it
> > > > this way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On to
> your question on
> > budget.
> > > To have a
> > > > joint
> > > > > conference of A
> > > > > > and B
> together, there
> > will be
> > > costs that
> > > > are
> > > > > specific to
> > > > > >
> conference A,
> > conference B, and
> > > shared
> > > > costs. I
> > > > > think it is
> > > > > >
> reasonable that each
> > committee
> > > raises
> > > > funds to cover
> > > > > its own
> > > > > >
> specific costs like
> > speaker's
> > > travel
> > > > expenses, and
> > > > > split the
> > > > > > shared
> costs like
> > revenue, food,
> > > > conference booklet,
> > > > > and so
> > > > > > on. We
> can negotiate
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> s/revenue/venue/ :p
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> whether it should be a
> > 50-50
> > > split, some
> > > > other
> > > > > percentages, or
> > > > > > best
> effort and good
> > will at a
> > > later time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you
> agree with this
> > > principle, I don't
> > > > worry too
> > > > > much if
> > > > > > you
> can meet 5K or
> > 10K. I think
> > > we can
> > > > manage. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What
> do you think?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By the
> way, the venue
> > we're
> > > looking into
> > > > has one big
> > > > > room
> > > > > > (~500
> seats) and 3
> > smaller rooms
> > > (100+
> > > > seats each).
> > > > > About the
> > > > > > 3
> plenary talks of
> > Gnome.Asia
> > > Summit, do
> > > > you need
> > > > > them to be
> > > > > > shown
> to all 4 rooms,
> > or just
> > > the 2 rooms
> > > > used for
> > > > > Gnome.Asia
> > > > > >
> Summit?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> cheers,
> > > > > >
> pingooo
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> 2010/2/22 Pockey Lam
> > > > <pockey beijinglug org>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> Dear Pingooo,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> Happy New
> > Year :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> After
> > discussion with
> > > the board
> > > > members:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> Actually our
> > only
> > > concern is about
> > > > the tight
> > > > > timing to
> > > > > >
> get sponsor,
> > but
> > > > > >
> we still
> > believe in the
> > > potential
> > > > of having
> > > > > a good
> > > > > >
> event together
> > with
> > > > > >
> COSCUP. If we
> > cannot
> > > meet the
> > > > target budget
> > > > > on our
> > > > > >
> side, we
> > believe that
> > > > > >
> we always find
> > ways to
> > > cut budget
> > > > or have
> > > > > less tracks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> Knowing that
> > your target
> > > budget is
> > > > 30K USD,
> > > > > while half
> > > > > >
> is 15K USD, if
> > we
> > > > > >
> can only meet
> > let's say
> > > 5K or 10K,
> > > > how would
> > > > > you
> > > > > >
> propose to
> > organize the
> > > > > >
> event
> > together? maybe we
> > > can
> > > > discuss about
> > > > > this
> > > > > >
> possibility
> > first?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> Look forward
> > to your
> > > reply!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> Cheers,
> > > > > >
> Pockey
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> On Sun,
> > 2010-02-14 at
> > > 13:03 +0800,
> > > > pingooo
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > Hi Pockey,
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> > Happy
> > Chinese New
> > > Year!
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> > The acting
> > leader of
> > > the COSCUP
> > > > team, Rex
> > > > > Tsai, has
> > > > > >
> evaluated the
> > > > > >
> > recap that
> > you and I
> > > wrote.
> > > > We're going to
> > > > > have a
> > > > > >
> team-wide
> > discussion
> > > > > >
> > soon.
> > However, we
> > > found a
> > > > potential
> > > > > showstopper.
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> > We're going
> > to have
> > > COSCUP on
> > > > 2010/8/14 -
> > > > > 2010/8/15.
> > > > > >
> The date is
> > fixed
> > > > > >
> > for many
> > reasons. Is
> > > the date
> > > > acceptable
> > > > > for
> > > > > >
> Gnome.Asia
> > Summit 2010?
> > > > > >
> > If not, I'm
> > sorry that
> > > we will
> > > > not be able
> > > > > to file a
> > > > > >
> proposal on
> > other
> > > > > >
> > dates.
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> > I know you
> > are
> > > concerned about
> > > > the lead
> > > > > time for
> > > > > >
> getting
> > sponsors. I
> > > > > >
> > don't know
> > much about
> > > > international
> > > > > sponsors. From
> > > > > >
> local
> > companies and
> > > > > >
> > global
> > companies with
> > > branches
> > > > in Taiwan,
> > > > > we were
> > > > > >
> able to secure
> > 19
> > > > > >
> > sponsors
> > with 3.5
> > > months of lead
> > > > time for
> > > > > COSCUP
> > > > > >
> 2009. I
> > estimate that
> > > > > >
> > we will have
> > about 4.5
> > > months of
> > > > lead time
> > > > > this
> > > > > >
> year.
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> > Best wishes,
> > > > > >
> > pingooo
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
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