Re: [anjuta-devel] RFC: Killing Anjuta-Extras

[Sébastien Granjoux <seb sfo free fr>]

Hi,

Le 20/01/2011 03:23, James Liggett a écrit :
> While making recent anjuta-extras releases, I noticed that it has not
> been ported to Anjuta 3.0. I'd like to take this opportunity to warn
> anyone that uses it that I will not be making a 3.0 release for it,
> because it is too late in the cycle to to expend the effort needed to
> port anjuta-extras to 3.0.

I went in Germany by train this week for work. It's a quite long trip 
with no network but a power supply. I haven't all the dependencies 
needed to compile anjuta so I have looked at scintilla and make it 
compile with gtk+ 3. I still need to fix the draw functions and few 
details. The scratchbox and the sample plugin already compile too 
because they are simple enough. In fact, I have planned to ask you to 
create a new branch for Gtk 3 today.


> 1. Having some plugins in a separate module is a serious maintenance
> headache.

I'm agree. On the other hand, moving these plugins out of the main 
anjuta module have made the changes in anjuta easier.

Overall, I think we probably have still gain some time doing it like 
this specially at the moment with all changes in Gtk. I don't really see 
a problem if anjuta-extras is broken for some time.

Moreover, it allows us to keep some useful code without all gnome 
constraints.


> 2. Most of the plugins in anjuta-extras are outdated and should be
> rewritten anyway.

Yes, valgrind and the profiler plugin are outdated. I think it shouldn't 
take much time to update valgrind though but it's probably more effort 
for the profiler.


> 3. The Scintilla editor, even upstream, is not quite ready for gtk 3.0.

Scintilla editor upstream will not be ready for Gtk 3.0 but I think it 
makes no sense to follow Gtk 3.0 before a stable version is released for 
such project.

But they have made quite some changes to use cairo instead of gdk and 
it's still actively developed. I'm not sure the gap between Scintilla 
and GtkSourceView is increased.

I don't use code folding so it doesn't miss to me but I use block 
selection and multi line edit at work (not for C) and it's quite 
important. I have thought about adding this to GtkSourceView instead, it 
is already existing as Gedit plugin, but I don't know the code and don't 
know how to start.


Basically, I think we could still make a 3.0 release, if at least 
scintilla is ready. The scratchbox plugin is useful but not worths the 
release by itself. I still see some advantages of having anjuta-extras 
in separate module.

Anyway, I haven't really though about this. I have done it just because 
several events make it the easiest thing to do for me at one moment.


Regards,

Sébastien