Re: SimpleList test fails with beta 0.92

[Tudor Vinereanu <tudorv eircom net>]

Ross McFarland wrote:
> you shouldn't need to uninstall the old versions of gtk2-perl-xs when
> building and installing new versions, but it really shouldn't hurt.

I didn't think about this... With the first release of gtk2-perl-xs,
I've switched over, and didn't see any problems, so I assumed the old
stuff can lie around.

> if there's nothing using the old inline stuff then it should be
> perfectly safe to remove it (talk about obvious statements, but correct
> nonetheless) basically if you're on a version of mandrake that uses the
> old inline version for it's installer and tools then don't uninstall,
> you're best off using locally installed copies in non-system
> directories, or at least ones that aren't in the default paths for perl
> modules/libraries/etc.

I'm not using Mandrake, but LFS (Linux From Scratch). I have the old
Inline stuff installed because I've started developing my application
in the early days, when there was no XS around.

> there's a make uninstall target created in Makefile by perl Makefile.PL
> if you still have the src laying around, but i've never had success with
> it. 

I didn't, but I've downloaded it again from sourceforge. It didn't
work for me either...

> if you use simplelist it probably won't work. my real question is if you
> are really using gtk2-perl-xs. that sounds stupid, but it would take
> non-trivial code to tell the difference. (sorry if you've already
> checked this out, but) try the following (hitting control-d not typing
> it) and see what version number prints.
> 
> $ perl
> use Gtk2;
> print $Gtk2::VERSION."\n";
> <ctrl-d>
> 0.92

That's right, same results on my system. I've never thought about not
running the gtk2-perl-xs, especially because when I installed the
first XS version (0,20?), I had to change a bit my code.

> examples/simplelist.pl should use it, but if the test doesn't work it's
> very unlikely that that script will as it's almost the same code.

It didn't work, which proves your point.

muppet wrote:
> i, too, am confused as to how perl managed to find the Inline stuff 
> during make test but not at any other point.  where are you installing 
> gtk2-perl-xs?  in other words, are you using a PREFIX to Makefile.PL or 
> are you just installing to the default places?

Yes, I do use PREFIX=/usr. I'm not sure what's the default target
(/usr/local?), but I've used this prefix since months ago (with Inline
too).

> if you have no further need for the old stuff, then it's just taking up 
> space (quite a bit -- over 200 small pm files), so i would say try 'rm 
> -rf' on the Gtk2 directory in your perl libs.  also make sure you get 
> rid of all occurrences of Gtk2.so under your perl libs to ensure there 
> are no stale libs lying around.  then do a fresh install.

I've done that, and as result, all tests pass (including SimpleList)!
So it was a matter of picking up the old Inline version. Puzzling why
it only did it for SimpleList, and everything else worked just fine!

I think it would be a good idea to have something in the README about
the possible Inline/XS conflicts. Probably most of the users would pick
up XS from the beginning, but there might be people like me hiding
around :)

> >On my Solaris machine, I use to have problems with CodeGen.pm (grep 
> >failed, only
> >a matter of quotes), but that was fixed by muppet a few releses ago 
> >(thanks!).
> 
> you should've mentioned, i would've fixed it sooner!

Maybe I should have, but it was really easy to fix!

I didn't say this before, but I really appreciate what you're doing
with the Perl bindings. I've followed the development since the early
days, and it's being better and better all the time!

Thanks again,
Tudor