Re: _NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS

["Oleg Sukhodolsky" <son two gmail com>]

On 11/22/06, Lubos Lunak <l lunak suse cz> wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 November 2006 20:23, Oleg Sukhodolsky wrote:
> > On 11/21/06, Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com> wrote:
> > > Oleg Sukhodolsky wrote:
> > > > Not exactly.  I want to show window which is similar to window with
> > > > _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_SPLASH window type (asit is treated by metacity)
> > > > but not "always on top".  And this window should behaves the same ways
> > > > under other WMs.
> > >
> > > This is just wrong. All splash screens should work the same way; there's
> > > no reason yours is special. So just tell the WM that it's a splash
> > > screen and don't do anything else.
> >
> > Agree, but I do not want splash screen (in term of WM), but something
> > similar to it.
>
>  So what exactly do you want, then? "as it is treated by metacity" doesn't
> mean much, Metacity is not an etalon of the WM spec.
>
> > Agree.  but my real purpose is to figure out what kind of control over the
> > allowed actions I have according to the spec.
>
>  None, it's all window manager's [*]. You can give hints, but if the window
> manager decides a window will be squished and with pink elephants painted all
> around it then it has every right to do so and you have (or don't have) to
> live with that. Both ICCCM and EWMH guarantee very little to clients, for
> various reasons. If they didn't our desktops would probably still look a lot
> like Windows95 or TWM or whatever was the X GUI back then, although that
> would at the same time have spared us quite some headaches, I admit.

Well, I do understand that I can not force WM to do something, but I
can provide some
hints to WM (and it's ok for me).  But how to, according to the spec,
(ask to) disable minimization, maximization, closing of the window?

Thanks, Oleg.