Re: Window Manager Protocols additions ?

[Matthew Allum <breakfast 10 am>]

on Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 07:53:46PM -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:26:57AM +0000, Matthew Allum wrote:
> > 
> > What are peoples thoughts on extending WM_PROTOCOLS to indicate a
> > window can receive a '_NET_WM_CONTEXT_HELP', or a
> > '_NET_WM_CONTEXT_ACCEPT' client message. The workings are similar
> > to that of WM_DELETE. 
> > 
> > The 'help' message usefulness I would hope should be fairly obvious
> > ( and I believe KDE already uses something like this. ). 
> 
> I think we discussed that before, here's what google turns up:
> 
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/wm-spec-list/1999-December/msg00006.html
>

ah, google wasn't so fruitful for me :-( .
 
> I don't think Windows XP has the help button feature, I don't remember
> it anyway. Maybe only in the "classic" theme.
> 

I dont know about XP, but from a PDA point of view QT Embedded and CE
have this. 

> > The obvious use for an 'accept' message would be dialogs in limited
> > screen real estate ( such as a PDA ). It would thus allow the 'OK'
> > button to exist in the dialogs title bar.
> 
> I think that's come up before too, it seems reasonable to me, I don't
> remember what was said last time it came up.
>

Cool, though I cant seem to find any post's on that. 

If its ok, can I send you a more formal patch to the wm spec ?
 
> Maybe some more generic mechanism should be used, like ability to add
> arbitrary button labels to titlebar? Of course I think that'd be hard
> for most WMs to implement, so it'd be a sort of dedicated-PDA-wm-only
> kind of feature.
> 

I think this could be overkill. Id be worried it could be easily
abused leading to user confusion ( as well as being a pain to
implement, fitting in with theme files etc ). 

Many thanks;

  -- Matthew