Re: Various comments, mostly on Implementation Notes
- From: Julian Adams <julian adams gmx net>
- To: John Harper <john dcs warwick ac uk>
- Cc: Tim Janik <timj gtk org>, Sasha_Vasko osca state mo us,Matthias Ettrich <ettrich trolltech com>,Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>, wm-spec-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Various comments, mostly on Implementation Notes
- Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:18:48 +0100
John Harper wrote:
>
> Julian Adams writes:
> |> back then i suggested an global property set by the window manager
> |> to indicate whether it does icccm compliant moves or not, but the
> |> general consensus was reached, that, rather than recommending the
> |> maintenance of a flag indicating icccm movement compliance, we should
> |> simple recommend icccm compliant behaviour and be done with that.
> |
> |Reading back on this thread it seems that it started because the current
> |WM_SPEC notes contradict the ICCCM and furthermore that the propsed
> |behaviour in the spec is not sensible.
>
> That's how I understand it.. (not sure about the sensible part)
>
> |
> |IF this is what you guys are syaing then we really need someone to
> |propose a solution. I can patch changes into the spec - but technically
> |I'm not qualified to come up with a solution :)
>
> I think we should remove that section from the spec, and possibly
> replace it with a clear explanation of the ICCCM-required behaviour
> (since this is often misunderstood).
Could one of you guys rough this out - I have no idea what the exact
ICCCM mandated behaviour is. Perhaps more importantly - would this
compromise any other aspect of the WM-SPEC integrity ?
btw the initial posted black-box/kwin implementation of the spec varied
from the spec in some areas. Some of this has been revised in the spec,
but some of it hasn't. Is there a revised implementation now ?
It would be a disaster if afterstep, kwin, sawfish, blackbox etc.
implemented differing versions of the spec, but all posted the same
_NET_SUPPORTED hints.
> IIRC at least twm, afterstep, kwin and sawfish do this how the ICCCM
> requires..? (some of these have only been changed very recently)
>
> John
>
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