Re: window caption and utf
- From: jg pa dec com (Jim Gettys)
- To: wm-spec-list gnome org
- Cc: Matthias Ettrich <ettrich troll no>
- Subject: Re: window caption and utf
- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:51:23 -0700
> From: Matthias Ettrich <ettrich@troll.no>
> Resent-From: wm-spec-list@gnome.org
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:11:05 +0200
> To: wm-spec-list@gnome.org
> Subject: window caption and utf
> -----
> Hi,
>
> one more extension to the spec. Unfortunately, X defines the XA_WM_NAME to be
> in "portable host encoding". This is a pre-unicode concept, not well thought
> through and AFAIK never really implemented.
Well, Unicode was still a glimmer in people's eyes in 1988... Sigh...
>
> I assume most WMs currently interpret the WM_NAME according to the local
> encoding of the WM. This still has to be supported, I suppose many old apps
> rely on that.
>
> New applications, however, want, should and have to use unicode for the window
> captions. Otherwise it's not possible to have for example norwegian
> applications together with some corean or japanese ones on the same screen.
>
> I therefore suggest we add an additional _NET_WM_NAME property which is
> defined
> to be in utf8 or utf16 encoding (whatever you prefer, utf8 would be fine for
> me). This way old apps stay compatible with new window managers and new apps
> will work fine with old window managers.
>
I suspect alot of places where X uses "ascii" or ISO-LATIN-1 could be
safely replaced with UTF-8 without bad things happening. UTF-16 is a
very different animal, and I believe is not useful for this purpose.
In any case, I expect looking into where UTF-8 can be used should be looked
into carefully; it may provide alot of bang for the buck...
- Jim Gettys
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