[Usability] Will be the fallback session still maintained in the future?



Hi everybody,

I'm a developer and system maintainer of different companies.

Since Gnome Shell is not the best choice for corporate usage(Not intuitive, time wasting and not compatible with a productive environment) , I decided to give Gnome 3(Fallback session) a chance.I successfully made it look like the gnome 2.3x. It seems to work flawlessly, but some features are missing (almost 50% of previous versions of gnome).The problem seems to be (Temporary) solved. The companies represented by me use Gnome since vercion 2.16, now they are forced to ''learn'' the ''new gnome'' or switch to another DE.


I heard some rumors:Is it true that Gnome 3 fallback session will not be developed/maintained anymore?

I'm looking for a solution.

Thank you in advance for your answers,

Regards

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Today's Topics:

    1. Re: Docking system. (Alex)
    2. Re: Docking system. (Pawe? Kubik)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:41:24 +0100
From: Alex<alba linuxmail org>
To: Pawe? Kubik<engr maxyan gmail com>
Cc: usability gnome org
Subject: Re: [Usability] Docking system.
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I think i got the general idea, but how would you implement it in the
desktop?

Am 17.02.2012 23:26, schrieb Pawe? Kubik:

W dniu 16 lutego 2012 21:21 u?ytkownik Alex<alba linuxmail org
<mailto:alba linuxmail org>>  napisa?:

     Hi,

     I wanted to introduce myself first, but this is a topic which I'm
     also very interested in, so I'll just go ahead.

     As far as i understand, you want to see some kind of tiling
     functionality in gome, maybe something like this
     https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/28/gtile/?

     Just for inspiration: I once saw a tiling manager for OSX
     (unfortunately i don't remember the name) which placed a button  -
     opening a small tinling menu similar to gtile - on the opposite
     side of the Min,Max,Close Buttons, like this:

     tiling



     Am 16.02.2012 01:52, schrieb Pawe? Kubik:
     I'm sure that most of you have already seen some kind of IDE like
     Anjuta or Eclipse, but maybe it's also featured by other
     applications. The basic concept is that we have one main window
     and few other which can be placed on the edges of the first one.
     That concept is being used for years. We can say that it's "must
     have" for programming environment. It's simply very practical and
     easy to use. If we have trusted solution why don't implement it
     in the desktop?

     Some time ago I wanted to tweak my Fedora with some commands from
     the web. I moved the terminal to the right edge and browser to
     the left to make them both fill half of the screen. The browser
     required quite more space so I had to resize two windows one
     after another. It would be much easier if I could resize both of
     them in the same time. There is no need to uncover my desktop.

     Or another example. You are operating on in few window. Moving,
     copying, deleting. You need three windows opened in the same time
     and terminal (let's say that you have to change some permissions
     for example). You drag each of them to edge of the screen and
     it's done.

     I don't have to write how useful would it be for GIMP users.

     Let's combine it with dock hiding feature. I can imagine how many
     other improvements could be made basing on this one. For example
     you have nautilus hidden on the edge. You select some text or an
     image and drag it into a folder in the file manager to save it in
     proper format (it doesn't work like this right now, but we could
     do something about it). Imagine how easy would it be to collect
     resources for any kind of work?

     That would greatly increase usability of Gnome, wouldn't it?


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It's very good idea, however we could make it easier. What would you
say for Blender like space management?
You can click on that "+" in circle in the upper right corner of the
3d view, and drag it left or down to add new wiev horizontally or
vertically. To remove view you simply need to drag border of specific
view until it completely disaprears. Let's imagine that you have
desktop divided to views that way and you have one maximised window in
any of them. It would provide much easier and more flexible desktop
management than tilling.
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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:30:51 +0100
From: Pawe? Kubik<engr maxyan gmail com>
To: Alex<alba linuxmail org>
Cc: usability gnome org
Subject: Re: [Usability] Docking system.
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I don't know much about gnome development. I am just giving some thoughts.
I think we could bound some window variables like position and size to
corresponding variables of "views". The rest is simply representing those
things as desktop objects (I mean divisional lines between them). They must
be visible, and allow dragging. There must be also some statements which
causes that resized to minimum disappears from the memory and dragging
circles adds new one's. I think it should work. I could think about
something like this myself but I don't have any knowledge about the API,
what really upsets me.

If anyone know some materials which would help me get that knowledge simply
let me know. I'd be grateful.
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