Re: [Usability] Request for UI freeze break (Re: Icons in panel menu bar)

[Andreas Nilsson <nisses mail home se>]

On 08/31/2009 10:41 AM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le mercredi 26 août 2009, à 17:54 +0200, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
>    
> > Le vendredi 31 juillet 2009 à 22:02 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> >      
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > When the panel was changed to kept some icons when the menu icons are
> > > hidden, all icons in the panel menu bar were kept. A new change just got
> > > committed to only keep icons for application menu items, place menu
> > > items and preference menu items. Or if you prefer, icons for categories,
> > > "Connect to server", "Search files", "Recent documents", "Help", "About
> > > GNOME", "Lock", "Log out", "Shut down" were removed.
> > >
> > > I'm not convinced by this change: some part probably makes sense, but
> > > something "feels" wrong to me. Maybe it's because I expect the panel
> > > menu bar to be a bit different.
> > >
> > > It could also be because by default, you get three menus (Applications /
> > > Places / System), and only Places has some icons (and quite a few of
> > > them) while the two others don't if you don't open a submenu. Maybe it
> > > kind of breaks a visual balance for me...
> > >
> > > So, yeah, I'd just like to get feedback to know if it's right or not, if
> > > it needs to be updated slightly, etc.
> > >        
> > Is there any plan to revert this (back to icons on submenus) ? Current
> > situation is really inconsistent and the mix between no icons and icons
> > is a nightmare, mainly in Applications menu.
> >      
> The only feedback I got about this is that we should revert the change
> for categories in the applications menu (and system menu, for the
> preferences). Some people would also like other icons to come back in
> the panel menu (and just the panel menus, because it's a special menu).
>
> Usability people: can you step up and tell us what is the right thing to
> do here? At the moment, my decision as maintainer is to put back the
> icons for categories in the applications menu.
>    
Matthew Paul Thomas seems to have been unsubscribed from this list (not 
on purpose, no idea what happened).

He said this on IRC:

following the guideline of icons for dynamic objects, there should be 
icons for:
* application categories
* applications * Places folders, volumes, and Network
* items inside the "Recent Documents" submenu
* items inside the "Preferences" and "Administration" submenus.

and there should _not_ be icons for:
* "Connect to Server..."
* "Search for Files..."
* the "Recent Documents" submenu title
* any of the top-level items in the "System" menu.


Lets hope he's able to resubscribe soon.
- Andreas