Re: [Usability] Gome is Too BIG..

[Dokuro <dario soto gmail com>]

the compact theme worked great, still it is also the developers fault,
not to make things better or leave a bunch of configuration options so
the user could re-arrange things....

great help from the mail list!

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Piotr Zaryk <oponek gmail com> wrote:
> Brainstorm idea connected with this topic:
> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/447/
>
> 2008/3/12, Piotr Zaryk <oponek gmail com>:
>
> > Look at KDE - looks great even in 800x600. There should be an option to
> make gnome items smaller (simple comparison - gajim and psi from kde). Gnome
> should be more elastic - able to fit 800x600 and higher resolution screens.
> >
> >
> > 2008/3/12, Kalle Vahlman <kalle vahlman gmail com>:
> >
> > > 2008/3/12, Luca Cappelletti <luca cappelletti gmail com>:
> > >
> > > > Hello Dario,
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Dokuro <dario soto gmail com> wrote:
> > > > > hello everyone,
> > > > > it has been a while now and it seems that Gnome has everything over
> > > > > sized buttons, spaces, fonts, i can't put mi finger on it but on a
> > > > > 800x600 screen everything is always so big... i reduced the font
> size
> > > > > from 10 to 8, it fixed things a little but almost all programs
> occupy
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a recurring issue, see for example
> > >
> > >   http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2004-May/msg00044.html
> > >
> > > "no sense deliberately excluding people who are still using 800x600 or
> > > even 640x480 without a very good reason)."
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > >   http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00010.html
> > >
> > > Sometimes developers just forget that people *are* still using small
> > > screens, and even more so with the (screen-wise) low end mobile
> > > devices starting the resolution cycle from bottom up again. I have on
> > > many occasions wanted to set my screen to 800x600 and file bugs agains
> > > every screen that I find unusable with that resolution. Alas, other
> > > things keeping me busy have prevented that from happening.
> > >
> > > My simple advice to solve the problem in development phase would be to
> > > never design a screen that is *forced* to exceed 400 pixels in height.
> > > That should leave some space for possible panels and window
> > > decorations. Additional available space should naturally be
> > > efficiently used when possible, but the application should not depend
> > > on it. Usually you'll end up with better UI anyway if you keep it
> > > simple, so the guideline is actually a double win ;)
> > >
> > > I didn't find a mention of window sizing in the HIG (apart a mention
> > > of the golden ratio), but I remember this been discussed earlier and
> > > recently (due to the GNOME Mobile efforts and the mobile "uprising" in
> > > general). I hope the HIG will soonish be refreshed in that regard to
> > > include experiences from devices like the eeePC and Nokia's tablets.
> > >
> > >
> > > > have you ever tried before to use or customize a gnome theme for your
> needs?
> > > > With a specialized gtk, icons and metacity theme you can reduce the
> window
> > > > and it's content to the max.
> > > >  Developing for UMPC require knowledge over what a HIG should offer
> and
> > > > everything will be handled from the developer.
> > > > 800x600 smells like eeePC so,
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually eeePC:s and other similar devices are generally 800x480 (and
> > > the bigger screen versions 1024x600).
> > >
> > > [snip large signature]
> > >
> > > Wow, I bet that didn't fit in 800x600 ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > Zaryk
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