[Usability]Re: The whole panel focus/keynav thing



On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 02:58, Padraig O'Briain wrote:
> I am not sure whether the patch went to the release team but it was discussed 
> with Mark Mc Loughlin. Mark has now backed out the patch.
> 
> So we we will have to come up with a new way of giving the user visual 
> indication when focus is in a panel.

So with the latest builds from this morning I (1) still have the broken
focus indication and (2) I now have a border around all applets on my
'regular' panels, which (3) doesn't solve any focus indication problems
for hidden panels, (4) doesn't fix the menu bar, and (5) breaks
usability by making it impossible to click on the last several pixels of
the screen.

I've documented all of these issues in bug 82887.
Luis

> >
> > On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 16:30, Bill Haneman wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 20:33, Seth Nickell wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 06:37, Bill Haneman wrote:
> > > > > Padraig/All:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't think we should make such a statement without further
> > > > > researching the issues here.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes we should. This close to release we should have backed the change
> > > > out a few days ago. It can be added back in if it can be made to work.
> > > > We shouldn't have regressions / new brokenness, period. Its not
> > > > difficult to add the changes in again if they can be made to work
> > > > smoothly. I don't see why that is not the automatic model we should be
> > > > following here ?!?
> > > > 
> > > > That said, I would be much more comfortable if the changes would be run
> > > > by a release team member before they are committed since they *have* a
> > > > history of breaking things.
> > > 
> > > The patch was posted for comments for over a week (maybe two) before
> > > being committed.  RT members *were* consulted.
> > 
> > Forgive me if I missed it, but searching through archives of the release
> > team list I don't see any mention of this patch.
> > 
> > -Seth
> > 
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