Re: [Tracker] The Utopian idea, Tracker as it should be

[Philip Van Hoof <philip codeminded be>]

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On 17/09/2014 20:43, Ivan Frade wrote:

Ivan!

> Some thoughts about the ontology:
>
> 1) KDE is not using nepomuk anymore: 
> https://community.kde.org/Baloo#Baloo.2C_Nepomuk.2C_KDE_Platform_4_and_KF5

Aarrrrhh.
>
Thank god that it's talk like a pirate day.

> 2) Previous attempts of sharing the ontology maintenance failed
> because of bizantine discussions for any change. It wasn't worthy
> when Tracker was the only serious (as shipping a product) user of
> them.

People, priorities, times, technology and passions change. What didn't
succeed in the past is no guarantee that it wont succeed in the future.

The history book on the shelve doesn't necessarily repeats itself. It
serves as a guide; not a prediction. That means that we today know
where the difficulties where. Next time we try we're better prepared.

> 3) Moving the ontologies to their own repo still looks like a good
> idea, because there have been some tries to run tracker with custom
> ontologies. A different repo makes it clear that the ontology is
> not "hardcoded" in the store and can be customized "downstream".

Yes. I think we need to lead and allow certain extensions and changes.
Perhaps we should start with what Baloo and Nepomuk do agree on and
gradually grow it as industries and use-cases join?

> Small letter on #3: IIRC there are some "foundation" ontologies
> that are absolutely required to bootstrap the DB (rdf, dc...).

Yes.

I hope you pick this up Ivan. You're for sure the ontology expert
among us.

Kind regards,

Philip

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