Re: Sawfish beginner

[Ian Zimmerman <itz madbat mine nu>]

Ruslan>   Way #1. Use panel.  pypanel is good.  I use xfce-panel.  Both
Ruslan> contains pager, launcher, taskbar, tray and clock.  pypanel is
Ruslan> smaller, xfce-panel is more functional.  Perl-panel are also a
Ruslan> good choice.  You can find more panels on freshmeat.  Also you
Ruslan> can use gnome with sawfish :)

I find this answer a bit irritating.  I use sawfish, and I have used
windowmaker,  among other reasons, because they offer almost exactly
the amount of functionality I need/want from a "desktop" without forcing
me to install the whole freaking Gnome/KDE/xfce and wait for it to load.

itz unicorn:~$ apt-cache show xfce4-panel

...

Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libcairo2 (>=
1.2.4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2), libglib2.0-0
(>= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libpango1.0-0
(>= 1.14.8), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), libsm6, libstartup-notification0
(>= 0.8-1), libx11-6, libxcursor1 (>> 1.1.2), libxext6,
libxfce4mcs-client3 (>= 4.3.99.2), libxfce4mcs-manager3 (>= 4.3.99.2),
libxfce4util4 (>= 4.3.99.2), libxfcegui4-4 (>= 4.3.99.2), libxfixes3 (>=
1:4.0.1), libxi6, libxinerama1, libxrandr2, libxrender1, zlib1g (>=
1:1.2.1), libexo-0.3-0 (>= 0.3.1.12rc2), mousepad

itz unicorn:~$ apt-cache show perlpanel

...

Depends: perl (>= 5.8.0), libglib-perl, libgtk2-perl (>= 1:1.042-2),
libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4), libgnome2-wnck-perl, libxml-simple-perl,
libxml-parser-perl, libgtk2-gladexml-perl, liblocale-gettext-perl,
libdate-manip-perl, libx11-freedesktop-desktopentry-perl,
hicolor-icon-theme


I assumed the OP knew all this, and that's why I have not included it
in my answer.

Ruslan>   Way #2. Pager is useless thing really :) So, throw it away.
Ruslan> For desktop switching use keys, not mouse.  For application
Ruslan> launching use waffle

Yes, this looks interesting.  Thanks a lot for the hint.

Ruslan>   Way #3.  Use windowmaker's applets :)

Except that many seem to be hardcoded to use shaped windows which look
quite ugly without the windowmaker provided tiles.  But those which can
turn that off, yes, are useful.

I'll add one more thing which is only tangential but helped me make
sawfish a lot more comfortable: gkrellm.

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