Re: [Rhythmbox-devel] Helping with ipod support

Fwiw, there's a pretty extensive (for our needs) mime type list and an
explanation of the issues I tried to explain in my previous mail at


On lun, 2004-07-19 at 16:52 +0200, David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 04:18:20PM +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> > > IOW, what I think that HAL should export in .fdi files should be the
> > > richest set of information that you can key off vendorId and productId. 
> > > Which I hope can be expressed as simple as a list of MIME types [1].
> > 
> > > [1] : though I've had a hard time figuring out the MIME types for mp3
> > > and wma, any hints?
> > 
> > Mime types just suck for media stuff... mp3 is audio/mpeg, wma would
> > probably be something like video/x-msvideo. But most of the times,
> > multimedia files are (mp3, vorbis, ...) bitstream embedded in a
> > container (ogg, mov/quicktime, ...). And when you ask for the mime type
> > of a file, you get the mime type corresponding to the container (eg
> > application/x-ogg for ogg/vorbis iirc). And the mime type of the
> > container is not enough to know if your mp3 player can playback the file
> > or not. So using mime types will probably not be enough for "complex"
> > file formats.
> > 
> Yikes. I knew that the MIME types sucked somewhat when it came to
> media, but not this bad. Perhaps the info exported by HAL shouldn't be
> MIME, but something homecooked?
> It raises a few problems, that might or might not be related to
> Rhythmbox, but now that I'm stealing your bandwidth anyway, I'll raise
> them :-)
>  1. Part of my secret agenda is to get other players to use the info
>     exported by HAL as well, e.g. Amarok, Muine etc.
>     (uh, please don't hit me)
>  2. I want to work on sort of a gnome-device-manager thingie where
>     people can actually go into a GUI and tick of what their player
>     can do, in fact say "this usb-storage thing is also an mp3 player", 
>     generate a .fdi file and share it with the world, community run
>     databases, whatever (future stuff, but..). 
>     This is useful because otherwise we won't be getting many or any
>     .fdi files.
> Yikes, any takes on this?
> Thanks,
> David
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