Re: [Rhythmbox-devel] yet another new mockup (meta)
- From: Jorn Baayen <jorn nl linux org>
- To: Daniel Borgmann <spark-mailinglists web de>
- Cc: MArk Finlay <sisob eircom net>,Benjamin Otte <in7y118 public uni-hamburg de>,rhythmbox-devel gnome org
- Subject: Re: [Rhythmbox-devel] yet another new mockup (meta)
- Date: 14 May 2003 17:12:31 +0200
fwiw, I agree with everything here.
tis 2003-05-13 klockan 17.42 skrev Daniel Borgmann:
> Ok, I guess we all agree now that the meta button ought to go away (I
> still think the CD source view should have a quick button to rip all
> tracks though). But I don't really like this iTunes-like search
> position. :/
> For one thing, the caption really shouldn't be _below_ the input box...
> That would be a HIG violation and a quite uninspired one. :) It doesn't
> really look good either IMO and certainly not "gnomish" (FWIW).
> I still prefer Jorn's latest suggestion without the meta button but
> still with the search bar. I also think that the browser expander is
> something useful that fits very well on the searchbar as it's probably
> mostly used when searching for something.
> I agree that your mockup looks more "symetrical" but it also leaves much
> less room for further adjustments... I don't think we should cramp it
> that much at any cost. If someone doesn't need the whole browser/search
> thing, he could toggle it away from the view menu and get an even
> cleaner interface. Make it toggable via a shortcut (like the locationbar
> in Nautilus) when it's disabled and this would even be a reasonable
> choice for advanced users.
> (Hooray for Evolution mail recovery!!)
> On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 17:01, MArk Finlay wrote:
> > I've made up a mockup to address some of these points and other things
> > that bothered me. Don't forget "Less is more". Good Ui design is about
> > removing things not adding them ;)
> > > Volume has nothing to do with play/prev/next and therefore shouldn't be
> > > grouped with those buttons. Besides that volume is a preference.
> > I agree to an extent but refuse to put it on the status bar cus that's
> > just horrible. It may not be perfect but it's current position is the
> > best i think.
> > > Show/Hide browser is a preference too and has nothing to do in the middle
> > > of my window. I'm managing songs in that region of the window, not
> > > appearance.
> > Agreed - I was thinking about it and some poeple like the browser and
> > some don't but it's not something that the majority of people are going
> > to want to toggle regularily so should be left as a preference in the
> > view menu. And if there is some small amount of users who want to toggle
> > it regularly then they can use the key binding.
> > Removed in my mockup
> > > And the slider isn't long enough.
> > Count yourself lucky it's there at all. Also it's very easy to be
> > accurate with it using the keyboard.
> > Also I've removed the meta-button. Thinking about it:
> > * It's confusing without text but text is going to be extrememly
> > impossible when trying to translate it.
> > * Create Playlist and Create smart playlist should be avaliable
> > from all sources as it is a function related to the source browser and
> > that is always visable.
> > * Burn should work in both the library and playlist
> > * No reason why you should have to be looking at the audio cd source
> > to rip it.
> > All in all I think that using a meta-button is going to be problematical
> > and inflexible.
> > I've moved the search back up to the toolbar. I really don't like having
> > that area at the top of the library browser. I think it really takes
> > away from the overall symetry of the program and it confuses the
> > toolbar.
> > I really don't think that anyone is going to be confused by having the
> > search on the toolbar.
> > The only issue remaining is those checkboxes. Some poeple really don't
> > like them. I'm not too bothered by them but would be interested if
> > anyone has a better idea that doesn't clutter the toolbar. Personally I
> > wouldn't mind having them removed totally as i never use them - just
> > leave them on all the time.
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