Re: Moduleset review

[Matthias Clasen <matthias clasen gmail com>]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro gnome org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Apologies for the long mail....
>
> As a goal for 3.20, I'd like to complete the long-overdue moduleset
> review proposed by Mathias at [1], in accordance with the moduleset
> guidelines proposed by Allan at [2].


Thanks for picking this up!!

> [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2014-July/msg00053.htm

> I suggest we consider these guidelines on a case-by-case basis for each
> individual app. Javier has volunteered to help implement any moduleset
> changes we agree on, so the challenge for us it just to agree on the
> changes. Here are my proposed removals from core, as a starting point
> for this discussion. They're based on, but not identical to, Matthias's
> proposal:
>
>  * network-manager-applet should presumably be dropped from core to
> world; that's a GNOME 2 thing, right?

In the 3.20 modulesets, gnome-control-center has a dependency on this.
There are some connection/device types for which we launch
nm-connection-editor. This is just a runtime dependency, and the code
seems to handle the absence of the binary ok, but maybe this should
stay around for now.

>  * gnome-packagekit should be dropped from core to apps, and replaced
> with gnome-software.

Yes, gnome-packagekit can go. Not sure gnome-software really needs to
go into core, but ok.

>  * empathy should be dropped from core to apps.
>  * gnome-dictionary should be dropped from core to apps.
>  * gnome-system-log should be dropped from core to apps, and replaced
> with gnome-logs.
>  * gucharmap should be dropped from core to apps, and replaced with
> gnome-characters.

I agree with all of these.

> Additionally, I believe the content apps Documents/Photos/Music/Videos
> should be in core, but also that we should have only a single app in
> core to handle a particular type of file:
>
>  * eog should be dropped from core to apps and replaced with gnome-
> photos once gnome-photos is considered to be appropriately mature (e.g.
> can open local files).
>  * evince should be dropped from core to apps and replaced with gnome-
> documents once gnome-documents is able to open local files.
>  * gnome-music should be added to core once considered to be
> appropriately mature.
>  * totem should remain in core.
>
> We should also promote some apps from apps to core. I'm positive we
> want to promote:

We should be a bit careful about the language of
'promoting'/'dropping' though - I don't think we want to imply a value
judgment here, beyond close alignment with the guidelines for core
apps.

>  * file-roller (temporary, until nautilus learns to handle archives)

Fine with me.

>  * gedit (renamed to Text Editor in the desktop file)

When we last discussed this with the gedit team, they didn't want to
go the 'nameless core app' route.

>  * gnome-initial-setup (this is not an app)
>  * orca (this is not an app)

> Along with this, we will want to review and clean up our Bugzilla
> components to match our moduleset definitions. It's frustrating to find
> core apps like Software hidden under Applications in Bugzilla. That
> cleanup can be done after we finish our moduleset reorganization.

In my experience, the higher-level groupings in bugzilla only ever get
in the way, and a flat list of all modules would be much better (at
least for my workflows).