Re: Death of gnome-common

["Jasper St. Pierre" <jstpierre mecheye net>]

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Philip Withnall <philip tecnocode co uk> wrote:
> See literally the first migration item on
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeCommon/Migration
>
> tl;dr: You can open-code it with essentially:
>         aclocal --install || exit 1
>         glib-gettextize --force --copy || exit 1
>         gtkdocize --copy || exit 1
>         intltoolize --force --copy --automake || exit 1
>         autoreconf --verbose --force --install -Wno-portability || exit
>         1
>
> (removing the technologies which you don’t use).

Er, I meant to reply to this earlier, but forgot to, I guess. Is there
a simpler thing than this, because I still like ". gnome-autogen.sh"
more. Seems much simpler.

> Philip
>
> On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 08:43 -0700, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
> > What about the gnome-autogen.sh script? Most of my autogen.sh files
> > just run ". gnome-autogen.sh"
> >
> > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Daniel Mustieles García
> > <daniel mustieles gmail com> wrote:
> > > Ok, thanks for clarifying! :)
> > >
> > > 2015-05-28 14:40 GMT+02:00 Philip Withnall <philip tecnocode co uk>:
> > > > It’s already sort of tracked as part of the ModernAutotools goal,
> > > > although that one lost momentum a while ago, so its status needs to be
> > > > reset:
> > > >
> > > > https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/GnomeGoals/ModernAutotools
> > > >
> > > > However, since there’s no flag-day-changeover for gnome-common, I’m not
> > > > sure it’s necessary to have a GNOME Goal. Maintainers hate touching
> > > > build systems unnecessarily.
> > > >
> > > > Philip
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 14:03 +0200, Daniel Mustieles García wrote:
> > > > > Would this make sense to create a GNOME Goal[1] to ease/track the
> > > > > change?
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > > > > https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Initiatives/GnomeGoals?action=show&redirect=GnomeGoals
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2015-05-28 13:47 GMT+02:00 Philip Withnall <philip tecnocode co uk>:
> > > > >         Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > >         This cycle, Dave and I are planning for the last ever release
> > > > >         of
> > > > >         gnome-common. A lot of its macros for deprecated technologies
> > > > >         (scrollkeeper?!) have been removed, and the remainder of its
> > > > >         macros have
> > > > >         found better replacements in autoconf-archive[1], where they
> > > > >         can be used
> > > > >         by everyone, not just GNOME.
> > > > >
> > > > >         We plan to make one last release, and people are welcome to
> > > > >         depend on it
> > > > >         for as long as they like. However, if you want new hotness,
> > > > >         port to the
> > > > >         autoconf-archive versions of the macros; but please do it in
> > > > >         your own
> > > > >         time. There will be no flag day port away from gnome-common.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Note that, for example, porting to AX_COMPILER_FLAGS is
> > > > >         valuable, but
> > > > >         will probably require fixing a number of new compiler warnings
> > > > >         in your
> > > > >         code due to increased warning flags. We hope this will make
> > > > >         your code
> > > > >         better in the long run.
> > > > >
> > > > >         There’s a migration guide here:
> > > > >
> > > > >         https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeCommon/Migration
> > > > >
> > > > >         We’ve tried to make the transition as easy and smooth as
> > > > >         possible, but
> > > > >         there will inevitably be hiccups. Please let me know about
> > > > >         anything
> > > > >         which breaks or doesn’t make sense. First person to complain
> > > > >         about
> > > > >         -Wswitch-enum gets a prize.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >         For developers
> > > > >         ---
> > > > >
> > > > >         When building from a tarball of a module which uses the new
> > > > >         macros, you
> > > > >         will no longer need gnome-common installed. (Although you may
> > > > >         not have
> > > > >         needed it before.)
> > > > >
> > > > >         When building from git, you will need m4-common[2] or
> > > > >         autoconf-archive[1] installed.
> > > > >
> > > > >         JHBuild bootstrap installs m4-common automatically, as does
> > > > >         gnome-continuous; so you don’t need to worry about that.
> > > > >
> > > > >         For packagers
> > > > >         ---
> > > > >
> > > > >         In the 3.14.0 release, gnome-common installed some early
> > > > >         versions of the
> > > > >         autoconf-archive macros which conflicted with what
> > > > >         autoconf-archive
> > > > >         itself installs. It now has a --[with|
> > > > >         without]-autoconf-archive
> > > > >         configure option to control this. We suggest that all
> > > > >         packagers pass
> > > > >         --with-autoconf-archive if (and only if) autoconf-archive is
> > > > >         packaged on
> > > > >         the distribution. See bug #747920[3].
> > > > >
> > > > >         m4-common *must not* be packaged. See its README[2]. m4-common
> > > > >         is
> > > > >         essentially a caching subset of autoconf-archive.
> > > > >
> > > > >         For continuous integrators
> > > > >         ---
> > > > >
> > > > >         Modules which use the new AX_COMPILER_FLAGS macro gain a new
> > > > >         standard
> > > > >         --disable-Werror configure flag, which should be used in CI
> > > > >         systems (and
> > > > >         any other system where spurious compiler warnings should _not_
> > > > >         cause
> > > > >         total failure of a build) to disable -Werror. The idea here is
> > > > >         that
> > > > >         -Werror is enabled by default when building from git, and
> > > > >         disabled by
> > > > >         default when building from release tarballs and in buildbots.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Philip
> > > > >
> > > > >         [1]: http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf-archive/
> > > > >         [2]: https://github.com/desrt/m4-common/
> > > > >         [3]: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747920
> > > > >
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  Jasper