Re: Short term GNOME 3 plan for input methods?

Thanks much for your observation.
We'd like to show IBus icon in the top panel for GNOME 3.
If not, I think the usability would be lost for IM users.

On (03/10/2011 09:46 AM), Owen Taylor-san wrote:
Here's my basic idea of what we might be able to do for GNOME 3:

  * We don't want either the old indicator or the new indicator showing
    by default for locales like English. It doesn't make sense to have
    an icon with "No input method/Preferences/About" just sitting there.

In the latest version of IBus GJS for GNOME-Shell, the IBus icon is not shown when ibus-daemon is not running, which is handled in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ .

  * We should devise some way that we can preconfigure IBus with an
    appropriate input method for the locale for common locales
    (zh/hi/ko/ja at the minimum) that do require an input method.

    This may be something that's done more at the distro building
    level than at the GNOME level, but we need recommendations
    for the distros of how it should be set up.

The has the list of "as bn gu hi ja kn ko mai ml mr ne or pa si ta te th ur vi zh" for the preconfigure.

  * There should be some way to get IBus configured to run for other
    locales. This could be a) just something in the release notes
    that you run from a terminal
    b) a checkbox in the "Region&  Languages" panel.

Currently im-chooser can set the input method and it's available from gnome-control-center.

  * If we can fix up the immediate issues with the JS indicator in
    the next few days, we should land it. Otherwise, we should whitelist
    the old indicator and get it to appear in the top panel. It's
    frustrating to do that just as we are finally getting rid of the
    networking icon, but I think it's less weird than having a vital
    system function in the message tray. (Especially if it shows up
    as ''!)

Yes, I think the appearance is not good.

    There are ~20 translatable strings in the JS indicator, about half of
    which go away if my suggestion to remove the About dialogs is

I removed the about dialog as you suggested.
Another idea might be to set gettext domain to IBus.

So, at this point, you (as a member of the release team) are probably
saying "WAIT! IBus isn't an approved external dependency, you want to
add a dependency weeks before the release???" To be clear, all code
added to gnome-shell would be completely optional. If you don't have
IBus, you don't get an indicator from what we ship. If a distro has some
other means to input other languages, then it's free to patch up GNOME
Shell to make it work as well as possible. (Whitelisting status icons
to appear in the system status area is a small patch.)

My plan is to continue investigating this over the next few days to see
if I can figure out a plan for the configuration issue, and see if
we can fix up some of the immediate issues with the JS indicator to the
point where I'd be comfortable with it going in as an alternative to the
old indicator.

I'll report back later in this week about where we are with that.


- Owen

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