Re: [Planner] Tasks assigned to same resource scheduled concurrently?

[Tom Miller <trm xpedion com>]

Roberto,

    Thanks... I wonder if Newbold could be contacted to contribute
    to this discussion somehow.

    Tom

On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 11:01, Roberto Leibman wrote:
> Tom Miller wrote:
> 
> >Roberto,
> >
> >    Good point(s).   Um, are there any nice tools which do
> >    Critical Chain stuff?
> >
> >  
> >
> The only one I'm aware of (and it's been a while since I've seen/used 
> it) is an add-on to MS Project called ProChain, developed by (IIRC) Rob 
> Newbold, a very knowleadgable person on the theory of the whole thing, 
> but it was very hackish. I've always dreamed of creating one, but it 
> would require time/effort. As I said before, maybe next time I'm doing 
> heavy PMing (currently I only need to PM myself, so  I'm the only 
> resource available).
> 
> >    Tom
> >
> >On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:35, Roberto Leibman wrote:
> >  
> >
> >><rant>
> >>It's funny that what's perfectly obvious to someone new to project 
> >>management is ignored by most experts.
> >>
> >>I have to agree with Josep that any tool that does project management 
> >>has to make resource constraints a first-order problem, and not an 
> >>afterthought. I've yet to see any widely used tool that does this; 
> >>Primavera, MS Project, etc don't do it, they all require you to go 
> >>through hoops to do resource leveling and most of the time you end up 
> >>having to create artificial temporal dependencies such as the suggestion 
> >>given to Josep. These dependencies are at best a workaround, but in 
> >>practice they can be detrimental to the project because they obscure the 
> >>possibility of doing tasks in parallel by the "simple" addition of 
> >>resources to a task, in practice, as the project progresses you figure 
> >>out that the link is artificial and often end up doing the task in 
> >>parallel anyway, thereby throwing your hands in the air and saying: 
> >>"screw this project plan", or even worse, spending another couple of 
> >>hours redoing the whole thing (and then an hour's meeting explaining the 
> >>"new and improved" project plan to the team.
> >>
> >>Which is why there exist better methodologies than Critical Path 
> >>analysis (yeah, I know, I repeat myself) such as Critical Chain 
> >>management, that take into account resource constraints from the beginning.
> >></rant>
> >>
> >>Josep Monés i Teixidor wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>El dj 03 de 03 del 2005 a les 13:56 +0100, en/na Max Lists va escriure:
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>You have to "link" the 2 sub task to tell task2 goes after task1.
> >>>>
> >>>>File attached.
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>Ah Ok! I knew I could do it this way but I expected the software to do
> >>>that automatically, because tasks aren't conceptually sequential, it's
> >>>just a resource problem. If I assign, for instance, task2 to another
> >>>resource, I have also to remember unlinking it (and possibly unlinking
> >>>and relinking many tasks which depended on task2).
> >>>
> >>>Thanks very much.
> >>>
> >>>Josep
> >>>
> >>>
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