Re: [orca-list] New line problem

[Arkadiusz Kozioł <zywek-mailing nvps pl>]

It can be done easy. We can assume that sentences always ends with ., ? 
and !. And i think, that better behaviour is when orca reads all lines, 
which don't have any special characters without any breaks, than current 
behaviour, when orca receives an info, that the end of the lines is an 
end of the sentence, so it's making a break, then first word in new line 
is the word which ending a sentence in the text, so orca again making a 
short break.

W dniu 21.07.2022 o 13:31, Joanmarie Diggs pisze:
> Oh that. It's a bit tricky. What Orca does is ask the app/toolkit for
> the current sentence, then the next, then the next, etc. Gtk (and
> possibly other toolkits) is treating a newline as a sentence end. I can
> see how that would be annoying. However, just ignoring what Gtk (and
> possibly others) report as a sentence might lead to undesired SayAll
> behavior elsewhere. For instance, what if the text is not an article,
> but list of items, one per line? If Orca combined all that into a
> single SayAll sentence, it might sound like gibberish. So we need to
> find a way to reliably identify when a newline character is a sentence
> boundary versus when it isn't -- despite what the app or toolkit tells
> us.
>
> --joanie
>
> On Thu, 2022-07-21 at 13:13 +0200, Arkadiusz Kozioł via orca-list
> wrote:
> > Open a webpage with some article, execute read all, e.g. ins+enter or
> > another shortcut, which you use, then you will hear the result. Or do
> > the same in pluma or gedit. Write some text, split it to the lines by
> > pressing enter, and read all, and you will hear the result, that orca
> > or
> > speech-dispatcher or something between this thinks stops reading,
> > when
> > find a new line, despite you have set splitting the text into the
> > sentences, not lines.
> >
> > W dniu 20.07.2022 o 10:52, Joanmarie Diggs pisze:
> > > Can you provide me with specific steps to reproduce the problem?
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 12:07 +0200, Arkadiusz Kozioł via orca-list
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi. I don't know what the problem depends on and what is related
> > > > to,
> > > > but
> > > > always from some update orca stops reading text, like an end of
> > > > the
> > > > sentence at the end of line. i have set split reading text to the
> > > > sentences. What is the problem and how to fix this?
> > > >
> > > > speech-dispatcher 0.11.1 and orca 43 beta, commit
> > > > 3ee6b8873d505a7dbbe1715cd0cca29e013ee91f
> > > >
> > > >
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