[orca-list] Fwd: Do you have a solution?? [john boyer abilitiessoft org: Problem with lightdm]

[Didier Spaier <didier slint fr>]

[I previously re-sent another message by mistake, sorry again]

Hello John,

I agree it's complicated. maybe more than strictly necessary.

I know that you use Braille only, but as in case of Lightdm as of Mate the
Braille output is conveyed by Orca using brlapi, no Orca, no Braille.

While you are at it, you could also check that Lightdm be a member of the
braille or brltty group, whichever be associated with brltty in Debian Bullseye.

You can check that comparing the group to which you are a member with the ones
to which lightdm is a member. Assuming that your username is john just type
these commands and compare their output:
grep john /etc/group
grep lightdm /etc/group

Anyway as I wrote, I usually end up not using a graphical login manager, I find
typing startx from the text console to start Mate (well, now LXQt instead as I
prefer it) more straightforward.

Cheers,
Didier


Le 05/07/2022 à 05:32, John J. Boyer a écrit :
> Hello Didier,
>
> Thanks. I use Braille, not speech. This all seems quite complicated. I wonder why the change was made. It 
> has meant that I can't use a graphical interface on Linux. I'll have to try the suggestions and see what 
> hapens.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 07:36:48PM +0200, Didier Spaier wrote:
> > Hello John,
> >
> > I second the suggestion from Jason to start in console mode the type startx
> > wheneve needed to start Mate, at least as a workaround.
> >
> > Now to have lightdm start in tty7 as previously, you could edit the file:
> > /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
> > and remove the leading # in this line:
> > #minimum-vt=7
> > Also check if this variable is set otherwise in this file.
> >
> > About speech in the lightdm greeter and assuming you are running the gtk one,
> > edit the file:
> > /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf and include these settings:
> >
> > indicators = ~a11y;~session;~power
> > a11y-states = +reader
> > reader = orca
> >
> > As I am not using Debian but maybe some Debian specific settings come into play,
> > I CC the Debian accessibility mailing list so that Debian users can tell if
> > something works differently in Debian Bookworm.
> >
> > Friendly regards,
> > Didier
> >
> > Le 04/07/2022 à 10:43, John J. Boyer a écrit :
> > > I sent this message to the blinux list and did not receive a reply. perhaps someone on this list knows 
> > > what is hapening. I am cuyrrently using Windows for my Web acces.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John
> > > ----- Forwarded message from "John J. Boyer" <john boyer abilitiessoft org> -----
> > >
> > > Subject: Problem with lightdm
> > > From: "John J. Boyer" <john boyer abilitiessoft org>
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 22:03:36 -0500
> > > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list redhat com>
> > >
> > > Until about six months ago, when I booted up  lightdm would ask what user to log into and the password. 
> > > It would then set up console 7, set the screen for this console to graphics mode and start  Orca. It 
> > > would not affect the other consoles, so i could continue to use them in command mode, with brltrty. Now 
> > > lightdm just sets the screen to graphics mode without asking anything. I have to use systemctl to disable 
> > > it, so I can use the machine. 
> > > How can I get the former behavior back? As it is, I can't use Mate at all.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John