Re: [orca-list] Screenreader Accessibility Testers for Ubuntu

[Vojtech šmiro <vsmiro seznam cz>]

Hello,

I don't have many problems with environment. I prefer Mate. I have many 
problems with Czech modern web sites. I can't well describe bugs in 
English and tell Joanie, what's the problem, technical English isn't my 
cup of coffee. It would be great to have Czech support, because I can't 
describe web bugs well. I am afraid I have to buy Windows machine or Mac 
for some works, which aren't comfortable with linux. But I don't want 
Windows like primary system and it would be great to repair 
accessibility in linux.

The second large problem is accessibility of Libreoffice or other office 
apps. When I was at school and wanted to write my thesis, I had to write 
it in Pluma and edit it on Windows, that wasn't good for me. I am glad 
Joanie works for us and I am thanking her for her great job. But many 
years I think she needs help. I am not programmer and can't help her 
much, but it's great, linux accessibility is better than six years ago. 
Accessibility is better, but work goes slow, because Joanie is alone in 
Orca develompent. I know, Chrys makes Orca with addons, but on Orca 
Master works Joanie only. But she works as she can. But it's right, many 
developers don't think on accessibility.

Best regards

Vojta.

Dne 06. 04. 22 v 23:14 J.G via orca-list napsal(a):
> Hello,
>
> I will intentionally mix, as we say in Slovenia, apples and pears,
> when I'm going to say, look on accessibility in Windows or MAC.
>  From my point of view, Ubuntu (used with gnome) or generally Linux
> should generally work on that. one example is settings panel. it is
> integral part of a system, so it should have been accessible out of
> the box, but from my perspective, it's not true. I still cannot set
> e.g. a correct timezone with Orca. but this is only one of many
> problems. I think, that Orca as screen reader is the smallest problem,
> moreover, Orca could be an example of excelent contribution between
> developer (MRS. Diggs) and community. She does as much as possible,
> only one developer cannot do much more in given time.
> bigger problems are accessibility APIs and other infrastructure, which
> helps us to work with computer. The most important thing is, that
> developers of other products don't have accessibility in mind.
> just attention, in 2025 many computers, where Windows 10 is installed
> and are not compatible with Windows 11 will be at risk, because at
> that time support for w10 will be ended. here is an opportunity for
> distros developers to gain more users, who will not want to replace
> their computers with newer. and this is obviously an opportunity and
> challenge for Linux developers to make it more accessible out of the
> box.
> Resume of problems:
> - lack of accessibility developers
> - a11y APIs
> - Orca and other screen readers in Linux
> - only a bit of other developers have accessibility in mind, others
> don't think about it
>
> I welcome this survey and hope, that Ubuntu and Linux in general will
> become more accessible in near future.
>
> best regards,
> Jožef
>
> 2022-04-06 21:05 GMT+02.00, Milton via orca-list <orca-list gnome org>:
> > I am just an end user and very happy to use Ubuntu with Orca.
> > Accessibility is very important so I am available for testing.
> >
> > Milton
> >
> > Op 06-04-2022 om 15:42 schreef Monica Ayhens-Madon via orca-list:
> > > Hello all!
> > >
> > > My name is Monica Ayhens-Madon and I'm the Ubuntu Community
> > > Representative at Canonical. I also work with an internal group
> > > working on increasing the accessibility of the desktop and our website
> > > in a variety of ways, including for screenreaders. We have a post here
> > > with a specific call for screenreader testers for the web page and the
> > > new Flutter installer:
> > > https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/accessibility-testers-needed-web-site-and-flutter-installer/26485
> > >
> > > We also want to build up screenreader testing in the wider Ubuntu
> > > community, and to make sure that testing improves things both
> > > downstream and upstream. If you'd be interested in talking to me or
> > > anyone in the accessibility group on how we can make an easy to follow
> > > process that is easy for potential testers to find, we would be happy
> > > to have your suggestions, concerns, and other feedback.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Monica
> > >
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